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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:06am PT
American workers and the middle class just voted for a righteous, forty year ass-f*#king by corporations and banks and they deserve exactly what they're about to get - a rapid and ghastly descent into hell if they don't possess in-demand skills (and the vast majority do not).
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:13am PT
Madbolter, you got guns, bro?

Oh yeah, baby. Went shooting on Sunday.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:15am PT
American workers and the middle class just voted for a righteous, forty year ass-f*#king by corporations and banks and they deserve exactly what they're about to get

You don't get it. We were gonna get raped in that way by either candidate. That one was a wash as an issue. Remember who paid for Hillary's campaign? Remember who lobbied hardest for Obamacare?
Da_Dweeb

climber
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:17am PT
Madbolter, you got guns, bro?

Oh yeah, baby. Went shooting on Sunday.


Sweet bro, we should hang out.

I'll call Mark so we can exchange info without doxxing ourselves.

Anyway, I'm calling it a night. Gonna sleep better than I have in four years.



Also, because it's a classic...


dirtbag

climber
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:26am PT
Yep, he won.

He's still an azzhole.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:27am PT
We should hang out.

Definitely!

Anyway, I'm calling it a night. Gonna sleep better than I have in four years.

I should too, but I have a big demo tomorrow, and we're frantically working on last-minute coding issues. LOL

Got too side-tracked with the election to get done in timely fashion.

Have a good night!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 9, 2016 - 12:56am PT
Prepare for a great house cleaning.

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 9, 2016 - 01:26am PT
You don't get it. We were gonna get raped in that way by either candidate

Way, way out beyond clueless. The savage and overt raping is about to be out of all proportion to the minor skimming of the dems, or even the gop.

Trump and the far-right are about to make Reagan and W look like Kennedy's.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Nov 9, 2016 - 02:51am PT
That fgbrony shjt is way to sick ! how is it that you troglodytes stand for it?
monolith

climber
state of being
Nov 9, 2016 - 03:15am PT
Are we done with this political dynasty crap?

The only consolation for me is the Clinton dynasty is finally finished.

How are all you dem Bernie Sanders haters doing now?

eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Nov 9, 2016 - 04:58am PT
America the dumb!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Nov 9, 2016 - 05:20am PT
I hear you monolith. Let the rescession begin,I hope I am wrong,but I doubt it.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 9, 2016 - 05:26am PT
Clinton won the popular vote according to the LA Times.

So, Michael Moore was right?

The corporatist candidate LOST!

You are very naive, TGT, for such an old guy.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Nov 9, 2016 - 05:59am PT
In shock, feeling worried for the future, of course.

Well, now all those who believed the last eight years was bad for the economy, for our nation as a part of the world, have the chance to see at least some hope for the positive changes they wanted to see.

I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong, but I cannot support DT as president on a token of faith. I need to some proof that the man who brought us "grab them by the pussy" is anything but a charlatan. I step aside, metaphorically, and watch as the man takes the carriage reins. Here's his chance to follow through on the promises he made. The things "he alone" could accomplish. If the next four years see an improvement in our sense of well-being, financially emotionally, politically - then I will be happy to be wrong. I pray that this is the case.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 9, 2016 - 06:21am PT
I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong, but I cannot support DT as president on a token of faith. I need to some proof that the man who brought us "grab them by the pussy" is anything but a charlatan. I step aside, metaphorically, and watch as the man takes the carriage reins. Here's his chance to follow through on the promises he made. The things "he alone" could accomplish. If the next four years see an improvement in our sense of well-being, financially emotionally, politically - then I will be happy to be wrong. I pray that this is the case.

Well put, Happie. I felt the same way about Obama eight years ago, and I feel as you do about Trump now. I hope he proves my opposition to his election wrong, and would be ecstatic if he does.

John
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 9, 2016 - 06:21am PT

I fear for the future of the U.S.
(and the world--forget about work on climate change, western lands
up for grabs, frack everywhere). . .
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Nov 9, 2016 - 06:38am PT
The polls were wrong because of one thing.....the vicious hatred on the part of the liberal left, represented SO well here on ST.

You all were SO vociferous in your opposition to those of us supporting the GOP ticket. And that was true all across this nation. So Trump supporters simply kept their mouths shut to avoid the constant onslaught of foulness, which made the polls a joke.

Now, you are continuing to rant on.

Lots of lessons learned last night.

^Well put.^

EDIT: The recession that's been coming is due to Obama.....you know that.

From WSJ:

Obama’s Fiscal Legacy

The President’s luck is about to run out—on his successor’s watch.

Congratulations to the President-elect, whoever you are, because you’re going to need it. Our deadline arrived Tuesday before we knew the election outcome, but not before we can say with confidence that President Obama is leaving his successor a large and growing federal budget problem.

That’s the message in the Congressional Budget Office’s summary, released Monday, of the fiscal year that closed in September. Though the subject barely came up in the campaign—little policy substance did—the federal fisc is once again heading for trouble. There are some lessons in this for the next President, who will quickly realize that Mr. Obama’s fiscal luck has finally run out—on his successor’s watch.

One lesson is that the days of easy deficit reduction are over. The annual deficit in 2016 rose for the first time in three years—by $148 billion to $587 billion. That’s 3.2% of GDP, up sharply from 2.5% last year. Mr. Obama has been able to ride falling defense spending from reduced military deployments overseas, but Pentagon outlays were flat in 2016. Military spending will probably have to increase in future years, no matter who wins Tuesday, to meet the growing challenges from Russia, China and Iran.

Mr. Obama will also leave town having failed over eight years to do anything to slow the booming burden of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Outlays for those three programs grew by $75 billion last year, or about 4.2%. They now account for 10% of the entire U.S. economy, the highest level ever, and rising.

The President’s main contribution has been to put Medicaid on hyperspeed by expanding its coverage through ObamaCare. CBO’s budget gnomes report that Medicaid spending has climbed by nearly 40% in a mere three years—to $368 billion in 2016. That doesn’t include what the states are obliged to chip in.

Another lesson is that faster economic growth is essential to a healthier fisc. One reason for the deficit rebound in 2016 is that federal revenues increased by a mere $18 billion or less than 1%. Individual income-tax receipts were flat, while corporate income taxes fell by $44 billion or 13% as business profits sagged. This is what happens when the economy sputters at about a 1% growth rate for most of a year.

Growth that slow couldn’t keep up with spending that increased 4.5% or $166 billion in 2016. Federal outlays were 20.9% of the economy for the year, up from 20.4% in 2014. A Republican Congress has kept that figure down from the heights of the Obama-Nancy Pelosi stimulus, but it is now set to take off again as more Baby Boomers start collecting Social Security and Medicare. (Millennials, get ready to pay even higher taxes throughout your working life.)

The tragedy is that Mr. Obama spent his political capital not on growing the economy but on growing entitlements and raising costs for business via regulation. The next President needs to make faster economic growth the policy default, or every other political priority will be hard or impossible to meet. The deficit burden will get worse faster.

The final major lesson is that the next President can’t count on the continuation of low interest rates. The Federal Reserve has been Mr. Obama’s best friend not named Chief Justice John Roberts as its monetary policies have helped finance a record debt blowout at lower cost. Mr. Obama issued more Treasurys than any President in history, and the Fed bought $1.7 trillion worth from 2009-2014. That helped guarantee there wouldn’t be a shortage of demand.

This era may be ending as a new President takes office. The Fed may raise rates in December, and bond yields have been rising. Outlays for net interest on the debt increased by $23 billion or 9% in 2016, largely due to faster inflation. But inflation is still tame. If it begins to rise, the debt-financing burden will explode with more than $14 trillion of Treasury debt outstanding, much of it short-term. In January CBO said that if interest rates are 100 basis points above their projections each year for the next decade, the Treasury will have to pay an average of more than $160 billion per year.

None of this adds up to an immediate crisis, but it does illustrate the degree of President Obama’s abdication. He has been the ultimate free-lunch politician, handing out new entitlements, exploiting the post-crisis era of low rates to grow the debt, and passing the bucks to the grandkids.

Mr. Obama once quipped in a meeting with Senators, only half seriously, that he couldn’t fix entitlements on his watch because he had to leave something for his successors. Too bad he’s done nothing except make the problem worse. It’s all yours, President-elect.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Nov 9, 2016 - 06:39am PT
congratulations deplorables

enjoy the fascism
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Nov 9, 2016 - 06:41am PT
Russ goes 2 for 2 (Cubs and Trump). He's the Comeback Kid.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Nov 9, 2016 - 06:44am PT
Russ should put his money where his mouth is and move to one of those economically thriving red states like Kentucky or Mississippi...
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