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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Oct 12, 2016 - 08:35pm PT
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Trump will go away in November, his followers won't.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 12, 2016 - 08:39pm PT
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If Obama is a Muslim he's about as close as a Muslim will ever get to setting the world up to be overrun by this filthy horrible ideology. These animals would thrive in the remnants of a world destroyed by nuclear war.
radical, those cool far out drugs at the hospital where you work are for the patients. if we should be alarmed about any religion it ought to be those f*#king child molesting catholics. ban the f*#kers and send them to internment camps. (i dont really believe that but if you want to apply equal absurd logic across the board, thats what should be done).
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 12, 2016 - 08:47pm PT
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The "polls + other factors" still has AZ slightly red. But it's definitely getting closer here.
Curt__
As an aside Curt, do you think Mc Cain will be re-elected?
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 12, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
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As an aside Curt, do you think Mc Cain will be re-elected?
In a landslide. Kirkpatrick (Rep AZ District 1) has basically no chance.
Curt
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Oct 12, 2016 - 08:59pm PT
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Looks like foul-mouth McCain is going to " capture " the senate race...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 12, 2016 - 09:12pm PT
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And the hits just keep on comin'...!!
I wonder how long it will be before the two Republicans who flip-flopped back to Trump today flip-flop right back with Ryan & co?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 12, 2016 - 09:15pm PT
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Oh I wonder.....with baited breath we should wonder what the next elected idiot decides to do.
I'm all a quiver....
tard
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 12, 2016 - 09:27pm PT
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Oh I wonder.....with baited breath we should wonder what the next elected idiot decides to do.
dont worry, be happy...he will stop, frisk and grope you. :)
all in the name of freedom.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 12, 2016 - 09:33pm PT
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Freaking nightmare I'm dealing with ...
Dude, this is why the advice to the hysterical is to breathe rhythmically into a paper bag before a seizure happens which you're clearly just a heartbeat away from.
How did you get so ridiculously dramatic? I think that's the deal this election cycle - drama - and sadly most of it is entirely manufactured and spoon fed. The last disinformation project of this scale was the selling of the Iraq War; hard to imagine folks would buy into it so whole-hog after so few years since the last mass manipulation.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 12, 2016 - 10:23pm PT
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Curt! Re your question about Heidi & me being registered Republicans.
Then why (may I ask) would you not join a party more in line with your admittedly more moderate philosophies?
We hope not to be taken off to the "Re-education Camps" if Trump wins.
Also, since Idaho is such a conservative bastion, it might occasionaly help to vote for the weakest Republican candidates in Idaho's "Closed to anyone, but registered Republicans" primaries.
I had been a High School Young Reublican, but never bothered to register as a Republican or Democrat.
That bothered the woman in my rural county registration office, when I registered Republican a few years back.
She took a long look at me, and I didn't look rural Idaho Republican.
After thinking for a minute, she exclaimed:
"you've got a lot of teeth for an older Republican."
I then started speaking in Central Idaho dialect, which sounds similar to, but different than Southern Hillbilly dialect.
I showed her my missing lower molar & explained I was missing another four Wisdom teeth.
She was then OK with me being a registered Idaho Republican.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 12, 2016 - 10:26pm PT
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"dont worry, be happy...he will stop, frisk and grope you. :)"
Or more likely your daughter. Or your wife.
Feel safer yet?
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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Oct 12, 2016 - 10:55pm PT
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Pretty good day for Trump...only 4 women accused him of sexual assault and his trial hearing for raping a 13 year old has been scheduled for December...um actually this guy is a total POS and every day it becomes even clearer who he actually is.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 12, 2016 - 11:08pm PT
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The "polls + other factors" still has AZ slightly red. But it's definitely getting closer here.
Curt__
Whoops.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 12, 2016 - 11:18pm PT
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Whoops.
That's "polls only" and not "polls plus other factors."
Curt
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 12, 2016 - 11:27pm PT
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Lol Curt.
Two of the three models have Hil winning.
Here's the ' if it were held today' model
Maybe he can claw some of those 13 points back. It'll take some outstanding "other factors"
Care to name them?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Oct 12, 2016 - 11:28pm PT
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So where does all this take us nationally?
I think the Repubs are going to take a massive hit in credibility. You don't support him, you do support him, you don't support him, you do support him......and all on the basis of Character and Integrity.
When you do that, it says to me that YOU don't have either. Simple political opportunism. Some would say that is exactly what you see on the Dem side, also......but that logic is "well yeah, I murdered that guy, but my buddy there murdered TWO people, so you should support me.
If you make your party positioned on the specific issue of Character (which the Repubs have done for years, and what got Reagan elected), you can't exactly throw the issue of Character overboard, and expect to be fundamentally respected and trusted, can you?
So, what's the best maneuver at this point?
I'd advocate the Repubs should simply SHUT UP about Trump. No answer gains anything.
What I fear, is that there is a closeness to the election, allowing the batsh*t wing of the party to say that the problem was the messenger, but there was nothing wrong with the message.
DOUBLE DOWN!
You look at a reasonable and respectable Repub like John E. I may disagree with many of his positions, but he (generally) has thought these things through and is not simply reacting emotionally. He rejected Trump, not on the basis of the man (before we knew all about him), but because of his policy positions (or lack thereof). I am virtually certain that I could negotiate a middle ground on most issues with John, and we'd both be better for it.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Oct 12, 2016 - 11:32pm PT
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Maybe he can claw some of those 13 points back. It'll take some outstanding "other factors"
Care to name them?
these would be things like officeholder endorsements (Sheriff Arpaio is loved in the state, and he loves Trump)
Newspaper endorsements
local scandals and things that we might not know nationally.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 12, 2016 - 11:41pm PT
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Is the Sherrif loved more than McCain?
The Sherrif is criticized for not investigating sex crimes, including the rape of a 13 year old girl.
Trump's kinda guy, but I'm not sure he wins back anybody for him.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Oct 13, 2016 - 02:57am PT
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...absolutely incredible corruption and collusion.
You're even starting to talk like trump.
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