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Craig Fry
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So Cal.
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David Kos got banned trying to get TGT banned after he posted some major racist crap, they were both banned.
Climber after climber were banned because they tried to get LEB banned, she stayed on for another year until she was finally banned. I'd guess that 4 to 6 people were banned because of her.
I was banned after trying to get "The Chief" banned, he was allowed to continue posting for another year until Philo took him down along with his self sacrifice with a Permanent ban for him.
SkipT was permanently banned for doing nothing other than insulting people non-stop, now he has come back a "tatertard".
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Today's Random Headlines:
Wikileaks' Assange signals release of documents before U.S. election
Republican senator gives an awkward answer when asked whether Donald Trump is a good role model
Both Trump and Clinton could be bad for the dollar
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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It is amazing how one man alone has managed to completely gut the codified creed of the Republican Party. I think it absolutely exposes the unprincipled hypocrisy that has existed all along in this establishment.
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Cragman!!!
Say it ain't so!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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New Topic to Blog About!
The 2 sides, what are the differences?
You vote for one of the 2 sides.
This is what you get when you vote for each side.
-Liberal vs. Conservative/Libertarian
-Hillary vs. Trump/Johnson
-Get the Money Out of Politics vs. Let's have more money influence politics
-Work for the people's interests vs. work for the rich and Corporations
-Science vs. anti-science
-Climate change is real vs. Climate change is hoax, so let's bury our heads in the sand
-Secular Government vs. Religious influence on Government
-Small Business vs. Multi-National Corporations
-Environmental concern and regulations vs. anti-environmental policies and de-regulated environmental protections
-free schooling from pre-school to 12 grade vs. private schools
-Debt free collage vs. high cost and huge debts from college
-Universal Health Care at Low cost vs. high cost private insurance
-Low cost of death vs. the deceased loses all their savings paying for end of life costs
-Low taxes on the middle class and poor vs. flat tax so we all pay the same
-Higher taxes on the rich who can pay more vs. huge tax cuts for the rich
-invest in infrastructure vs. no investment in infrastructure
-jobs programs vs. no funding for jobs
-high minimum wage vs. no minimum wage
-improved economy so jobs are plentiful vs. lousy economy so jobs are scarce which drives down wages
I could go on all day
and I will have to continue later, so I can get back to work
and if you disagree with one or more points, please elaborate on the proof that makes your case.
Please note what side your on, and if you are on the left, Hillary is working together with Bernie to make things happen.
Not voting will not help our cause, and will just help the other side win.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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The Republicans DO NOT care about small businesses
The Democrats Protect Small Businesses from Commie Big Business take overs
The Democrats also support Regulated big business, corporate interests and lawyers.
and don't bother trying to say this person or that person did this or that
It's the Party Platform we are discussing
not anecdotal BS
The Party Platform does not support corporate lobbyist money that will end up screwing the people or the middle class.
NEXT
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Ya know, there are quite a few downright idiots who are going to vote for Trump, simply because they are too brainless to see through his bullsh#t.
Then there's a category who are not stupid, but hate the Clintons & Democrats so much that they will do anything....anything....to work against them, including rationalizing to themselves that someone like Trump is a reasonable option.
Sadly, this is where people like Cragman fit in. In any other circumstance, with another alternative, he'd call out Trump for who he is, and never support that buffoon.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Giving a speech to people at Goldman Sachs is not the same as Taking Bribes from Goldman Sachs
They invite people to speak all the time, they got money to burn, and they put up a photo of you and say look, we had Hillary speak for us.
And, They give money to both sides, you need money to run a campaign!
But if you listen to the right wing media, what the Republicans have been doing for years and raking in millions is now the worst thing in the universal if Hillary even gets near it.
On the right you have Paid Goldman Sachs staff working in your Republican House or (R) President's staff making policy to favor Big Banks and Wall Street
vs.
Keep the big banks and Wall Street regulated to some degree, keep them in check so they don't crater the economy again. Implement consumer protections!
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Speaking Donald-ese...
"If I'm right about one thing, I'm right about everything, I mean really right about everything, everything! Believe me folks, I'm brilliant at being the best at being right about everything, brilliant at it, brilliant. Most people don't understand what it takes to be brilliant at everything, but I do, I do. I'm not lying about that, crooked Hillary lies about it, lies about it I tell you. Let me tell you folks, crooked crooked Hillary lies about everything all the time, everything."
It's almost more than I can stomach. Where's the off button on thi-
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I thought he worked for Richard Harrison's Company before he died?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I took it down
I don't post lies, He said he worked for Richard, FACT
How would I know the situation changed
all I needed was to find out from you what Cosmic is doing, so I could know the facts
now we all know
Maybe you should simmer down
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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...and maybe his personal life is none of anybody's business...
Anyway...
"Being a small business owner, it really would be to his benefit to vote for Hillary Clinton..."
Yeah, given what little I know about Cosmic, his support for Trump mystifies me.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Well put, GCF!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I own 2 small businesses
And I don't need a tax cut
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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F*#k off
I took it all down
how can I belittle him when there is NOTHING THERE
He told me in person he worked with or for Harrison, Fact
He knows I climbed with Harrison a bunch
pretty damn low to get upset with nothing to point to
damn pathetic IMO
typical though
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Craig Fry showing his ass again? Is this news?
Regarding the earlier post. Of all these things that the Liberals/Democrats support, the only thing they acted like children about and staged a "sit-in" was gun control. Which, mysteriously, was absent from your list.
So basically what you're saying is that the Democrats are equally adept as the Repubs at giving lip service to any number of "hot button" issues but when the rubber meets the road, they aren't particularly inspired to do anything about it.
Nice.
-Liberal vs. Conservative/Libertarian
-Hillary vs. Trump/Johnson
-Get the Money Out of Politics vs. Let's have more money influence politics
-Work for the people's interests vs. work for the rich and Corporations
-Science vs. anti-science
-Climate change is real vs. Climate change is hoax, so let's bury our heads in the sand
-Secular Government vs. Religious influence on Government
-Small Business vs. Multi-National Corporations
-Environmental concern and regulations vs. anti-environmental policies and de-regulated environmental protections
-free schooling from pre-school to 12 grade vs. private schools
-Debt free collage vs. high cost and huge debts from college
-Universal Health Care at Low cost vs. high cost private insurance
-Low cost of death vs. the deceased loses all their savings paying for end of life costs
-Low taxes on the middle class and poor vs. flat tax so we all pay the same
-Higher taxes on the rich who can pay more vs. huge tax cuts for the rich
-invest in infrastructure vs. no investment in infrastructure
-jobs programs vs. no funding for jobs
-high minimum wage vs. no minimum wage
-improved economy so jobs are plentiful vs. lousy economy so jobs are scarce which drives down wages
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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-Gun Control Regulations approved by 80% of the population vs. no gun regulations and we all should spend as much money on arming ourselves as possible so the NRA will be happy.
And if a cop sees you with legal open carry, you are going to Die!
Massacres every week,
tots killing more Americans than Muslim Terrorists!!
America has been in the throes of the Reagan Revolution since 1980.
This is a Republican Economy we are living with Now, and the Democrats can not get any of their legislation through
So suck on it Republicans/Libertarians
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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so much of his voting choice is based on Donald Trump being "Pro life"...
I seriously doubt Trump is actually religious or pro life.
in any event, he flip flops all over on this issue
When his mistress got pregnant he tried to get her to abort
[Click to View YouTube Video]
his 2015 explanation of his change in position is clearly not based on religious views.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/03/donald-trumps-ever-shifting-positions-on-abortion/
April 1989
Trump co-sponsored a dinner at the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan (which he then owned) honoring Robin Chandler Duke, a former president of NARAL. He chose not to attend, the New York Times reported, after his family was threatened by anti-abortion activists.
Oct. 24, 1999
Ten years later, Trump appeared on NBC in an interview with Tim Russert. In a clip that has received newfound life during this election cycle, Trump defends his broadly liberal positions by explaining that he grew up in Manhattan, not Iowa.
Asked about abortion, he’s clear.
“I’m very pro-choice,” Trump says. “I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. I cringe when I listen to people debating the subject. But you still — I just believe in choice.”
Russert clarifies his original point: Would you ban partial-birth abortion? “No,” Trump replies.
Between 1999 and 2011
At some point between 1999 and 2011, Trump’s position on abortion changed. He explained the reason for his switch during the first debate of 2015.
[W]hat happened is friends of mine years ago were going to have a child, and it was going to be aborted. And it wasn’t aborted. And that child today is a total superstar, a great, great child. And I saw that. And I saw other instances.
In 2011, as he was toying with running, he told activists at the Conservative Political Action Conference that, among other conservative positions, “I am pro-life [and] against gun control.”
June 28, 2015
Shortly after announcing his candidacy, Trump appeared on CNN in an interview with Jake Tapper. He got a little tripped up.
TAPPER: Let me ask you about a few social issues because they haven’t been issues you have been talking about for several years. I know you’re opposed to abortion.
TRUMP: Right. I’m pro-choice.
TAPPER: You’re pro-choice or pro-life?
TRUMP: I’m pro-life. I’m sorry.
March 30, 2016, 2:30 p.m.
The interview with Matthews is taped, and Trump asserts that women who receive abortions once the procedure is illegal will face punishment. The men are involved will not, he adds.
March 30, 2016, 3:30 p.m.
Before the MSNBC town hall even airs, a spokesperson for Trump releases a statement changing what he told Matthews.
About an hour later, Trump’s campaign releases a more formal “statement regarding abortion.” It’s different than what he said to Matthews and his initial statement.
“If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law,” the statement says, “the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman.” (It’s worth noting that this is in line with the pro-life movement’s position.)
The statement includes a snippet written in the first person: “My position has not changed — like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions.”
April 1, 2016, 6:30 p.m.
CBS releases an excerpt of its interview with Trump that aired Sunday morning. Asked again about abortion, Trump’s position seems to change yet again.
“The laws are set now on abortion and that’s the way they're going to remain until they’re changed,” he said, according to CBS’s transcript. “I would’ve preferred states’ rights. I think it would’ve been better if it were up to the states. But right now, the laws are set.... At this moment, the laws are set. And I think we have to leave it that way.”
Understandably, this is not well-received. The pro-life group Susan B. Anthony List replies that he had “disqualified himself as the GOP nominee” if this were his position.
Trump also offered a reason for his initial comments to Matthews: “I’ve been told by some people that was an older line answer and that was an answer that was given on a, you know, basis of an older line from years ago on a very conservative basis.”
April 1, 2016, 9 p.m.
Again before the program airs, the Trump campaign re-frames what the candidate said.
“Mr. Trump gave an accurate account of the law as it is today and made clear it must stay that way now — until he is president,” it read. “Then he will change the law through his judicial appointments and allow the states to protect the unborn. There is nothing new or different here.”
Should Mr. Trump’s position on abortion not be anything new or different again in the future, this article will be updated.
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