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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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"Please do! Real Americans don't want your "change" nor your "mainstream."
Dog whistle...here comes the whites.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Anyone pre-Columbus is a real American. Everyone else, not so much.
Real Americans are race, religion and sexual orientation blind.
Real Americans lead by example, and not by force.
Real Americans understand this planet, and not their own personal gain, is our most precious gift.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Hey....anybody know what happened to Norton?
He's been missing for a couple of weeks...looks like all of his forum images are gone, too.
???
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Anyone pre-Columbus is a real American. Everyone else, not so much.
The Navajo arrived in what is now United States around the same time as Columbus. They wrecked havoc on the older cultures here. Ask the Hopi about how it has worked out.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Awww, that's too bad. Understandable, though. Hope he's ok.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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The arrival of Europeans took conflict over resources and genocide to a whole new level.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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It is too bad because he made a LOT of sense and was pretty much always on the mark...
Lol
"THEY" COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!...
I like the effort though. The air-quotes were a nice touch.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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It is too bad because he made a LOT of sense and was pretty much always on the mark...
Life in the echochamber.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Well, hell...if Norton's gone, who's gonna keep asking Esco if/when he's going to graduate from 6th grade?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Please define in detail what EXACTLY a "Real American" is...
A Real American is living off of social security disability payments, is white, protestant, lives in a trailer park and has a few dental issues. Likes to swill beer and complain about freeloaders.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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^^^^^
Yep.
+1
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Hahahah. That is funny.
The SuperTopo equivalent of running away from home.......he'll make it to the end of the street and after hiding in the bushes and realizing the world didn't miss him all that much, he'll come back and try to play it off.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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It's gotta suck looking around at your Party and saying to yourself, 'What the f*#k happened here? How did we get stuck with this?' How ironic.
Real Americans are race, religion and sexual orientation blind. I would say most human beings are tribal and will be for a long time...even in the bastions of liberal thought:
How many colleges give advanced degrees in different ethnic studies?
How many minority clubs on campuses?
How many black only colleges in America?
And when they're not tribal, they're certainly not race blind...
ie: Affirmative Action.
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But I do understand your point ;-)
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A Real American is living off of social security disability payments, is white, protestant, lives in a trailer park and has a few dental issues. Likes to swill beer and complain about freeloaders. LMAO
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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See, Larry, I don't think you guys get it.
Personally, I'm just fine with Hillary as a choice for POTUS. She's going to serve the majority of my interests just fine. There's no turmoil, inner conflict or rationalization I have to do to vote for her. She's clearly the most qualified, and the best choice.
You guys, on the other hand, are stuck with a really sucky sh#t sandwich, and now that it's square in front of you, you have to rationalize to everyone why you are going to eat it.
And when he loses...or even if he wins and wreaks his catastrophe...you are going to be saddled with the knowledge that you ate that sh#t sandwich knowing that you never wanted it in the first place. Bummer for you.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Diversity is 'merica's greatest strength and should be celebrated. Lady Justice is blindfolded for a reason.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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"Personally, I'm just fine with Hillary as a choice for POTUS. She's going to serve the majority of my interests just fine. There's no turmoil, inner conflict or rationalization I have to do to vote for her. She's clearly the most qualified, and the best choice.'
Same here, they are just trying to bring her down to that gutter where that Trump resides.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Larry, I don't think you guys get it. apogee,
I'm not a Trump guy, but I find Hillary even more loathsome.
Maybe up to 100,000 years of modern human evolution and advancement takes us now to the most powerful position in the history of mankind and these are our choices?
Johnson/Weld...
A choice, not a capitulation.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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bob I'm ESL.. so you have no input on FAITHLESS electors?
your Hillary has 270 collage electorates are suspicious and I'm wanting to figure it out. I thunk you were the person to ask but I guess not.. maybe I'll see you out at the FISH sponsored Stoney Point Hot dog fest this Thursday!!!
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Howdy all, keep the faith, in climbing.
I know, I said I wouldn't post on this thread after my previous post, but think of it this way: I am not here, this post is a figment of your imagination, collectively.
And Uncle Pat says: (sheesh some of you are old enough to be my... nah maybe not) Be happy.
Chill out. I would think many of us have enough concerns to not really worry who is going to be the next POTUS. But then I am only speaking for myself.
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Do you really think anything is going to change, not with Hillary nor with the Donald. I am not being cynical, but I would think, more realistic. America is great, I do not live there nowadays but my soul is always there. Sure the US has problems. I've got problems, but there is light at the end of the tunnel, and it is not the POTUS, it is us. The spirit of humanity is the light at the end of the tunnel. End of philosophy 001.
Best wishes to all and safe climbing… and no name calling, my feelings get hurt easily, hah hah.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Clinton/Kaine...
A choice, not a capitulation.
See...it works for me, too!
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