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bluering
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Santa Clara, CA
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Donald Trump is a pragmatic fixer of things. And that is precisely why he will get my vote.
Yep. I do the same for living. Troubleshoot the problem, and fix it.
I see the same in Trump. As a brash person myself, I have no issues with how he phrases things. He's honest and direct. I dig that.
He is here to fix things, not dance around with people who are too 'sensitive', or are easily offended.
Get over it, we have a country to fix. Let's do it!
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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yeah, those overly sensitive folks concerned with allegations of Trump's forcible sodomy on a minor needa gettouttatheway to fix America, and now dammit!
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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Funny to see the void-space left between the parties, just gaping away there, with all kinds of very different voters waiting for a real and viable alternative. Also, one that does not (maybe he did, maybe he dint) rape kids.
hay gran trecho entre dicho y hecho, totalmente!
Strange commonalities here, Cragman, in our dissatisfaction.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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yeah, those overly sensitive folks concerned with allegations of Trump's forcible sodomy on a minor needa gettouttatheway to fix America, and now dammit!
yeah, those overly sensitive folks concerned with allegations of Hillary's corporate-promises, fraudulent and slush-fund "foundation," self-serving use of a public office, failure to protect top secret records, intentional and willful (and grossly negligent) flouting of FOIA statutes and other federal records-keeping (and records protection) statutes, vapor-locking, short-circuiting, spasming, seizure-ridden, say-anything, lie-constantly approach to her former roles...
needa gettouttatheway to fix America, and now dammit!
Yeah, this election is a lost cause, either way it ends up going. But, could we do something about the next one, particularly now that we have such profound and sweeping evidence about how sick and wrong both parties are?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Also, one that does not (maybe he did, maybe he dint) rape kids.
Why do you dwell on this? This is not true.
Is this all you have to smear a man?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Also, one that does not (maybe he did, maybe he dint) rape kids."
Look, I don't know if it's true or not, but people are talking about it...there's lots of stuff on the internet about it...look into yourself.
(That's a really annoying & slimy way to respond, isn't it?)
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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The third case against Trump comes via a recent federal lawsuit filed in June 2016 in the State of New York by “Jane Doe.” In the suit, Doe alleges that Trump raped her back in 1994, when she was 13 years old. According to legal docs, Doe says she attended parties with Trump and his friend Jeffrey Epstein—a registered sex offender known in the media as the “billionaire pedophile.” Doe, who was trying to become a model, says it was during these parties that Trump initiated sexual contact with her on several occasions and on one occasion allegedly raped her.
According to the suit, Trump tied her to a bed, exposed himself to her and then raped her in a “savage sexual attack.” Doe says she screamed for him to stop at which point he struck her in the face while screaming “that he would do whatever he wanted.” In a statement filed with the lawsuit, Doe says Trump threatened to ruin her life and her family’s life if she ever told anyone about the incident:
Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed.
move along, nothing to see here
i hate to say it but I tend to err on the side of the accuser - how long did it take for the accusations about Cosby to finally be treated with the gravity they deserved?
And yeah MB1, it is nice to have some hope that we could do something about the next one [election], something better. Even though I think we probably both hold real doubts in addition to that hope.
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WBraun
climber
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Hillary just got busted for lying she didn't authorize supplying US arms to Queda and ISIS.
Main loon media will spin it in every direction but the truth.
Now they'll have to lie on snopes so that the Hillary brainwashed nutcase loons can find comfort that it isn't true.
Stoopid politard loons .....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Hillary just got busted for lying she didn't authorize supplying US arms to Queda and ISIS.
Main loon media will spin it in every direction but the truth.
Now they'll have to lie on snopes so that the Hillary brainwashed nutcase loons can find comfort that it isn't true.
Stoopid politard loons .....
Or they can just say Trump rapes kids. It's amazing people buy this crap.
CAN WE FOCUS ON FACTS AND QUIT MAKING SH#T UP?
EDIT: say they'd like to sleep with their daughter, were it not illegal (And that is essentially what that pervert says)...
That is NOT what he said. He essentially said his daughter was very attractive. And you know this. Do you really think he meant anything other?
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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*mainloon media* heh.
blue: I presented the facts of the allegation. The fact is that a federal lawsuit was filed. I never said he actually did it (thus the vacillation in my statements). ahhhh, nevermind.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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The "FACTS of an ALLEGATION", is a bizarre use of language....especially when you're dealing with such an 'allegation'.
It is not a fact. It is an accusation. I could accuse you of raping me too. Doesn't really mean anything until there are FACTS and EVIDENCE to back it up.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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^Virtually every high profile and seriously WEALTHY man, has had these kinds of accusations brought against him.
I didn't realize that Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs, Sir Paul, etc, etc, had been accused of being child molesters.
In fact, I can name dozens of very wealthy folks who avoid this accusation.
But NOT TRUMP. And the last accusation, well there's eye witness accounts. Women who have come out now and declared their life is in danger because they came forward.
In other words, your accusation about "every high profile and seriously WEALTHY man" is simply untrue.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Clinton is a continuation of the problems, and brings no solutions
agreed
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Boy, are you ever a fool if you think that when The Donald sez "dating," that he ain't talking about fvcking...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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The fact is, I agree we need major change. We elected officials on both sides to get off their ideological a**es and hammer out some solutions. We have Chump because of that failure.
But Chump is the change we do not need. He is a hot headed bully with the attention span of a 2 year old. He is ruled by his ego. The myth that he is some sort of super negotiator is total fantasy. Chump does what is good for Chump, and when it goes bad he bails and and blames it on everyone else. That is leadership? Saying he will hire smart people is wrong too, because fires them if they tell him he is wrong.
Hillary is the only viable alternative. I know that sucks, but there it is.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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I wonder how Sanders would have done had the MSM and the Democratic Party not been in cahoots to drain him.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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But what I DO like about [Trump] is this.......he is neither Republican nor Democrat in his approach to the problems facing our nation. He is.....a pragmatist. From our stagnant economy, to our trade deficits, to our illegal immigration problems, to the corruption in government, to violence in our neighborhoods, and terror around the world.......he does not see these as Republican or Democrat problems. He sees them as things that need fixing, and not be appeasing one group of people or the other.
Um, hate to pop your bubble, but Trump's entire life has been focused on doing everything he possibly can to enrich himself, without regard to anybody else around him.
Given the chance to stiff somebody out of money he rightfully owes them, and he'll give them a stiffy, even with his little hands. (Take his campaign staff as an example, or the Vet foundations that he stiffed until the MSM looked into it and found he never paid them the money he raised on their behalf.)
His "fix" for problems is to put his thumb on those of lesser means--just review the thousands of lawsuits he's involved with--and those who can't fight because they don't have the scratch to do battle with the scumbag.
Am I wrong? Go ahead and name one Trump program that will fix any of the things you mention. Deport 11.5 million? Oh yeah, on who's dime, and to what side-effect of our economy? Build a 3-story wall? Yeah, and make our neighbors to the South hate us like never seen.
Protest his actions and he'll lock you up faster than you can sneeze.
Trump represents the most foul parts of capitalism and if elected, we can kiss most of our allies goodbye.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"...your personal attacks,...
Crap, you can be overly-sensitive sometimes, Cragman.
Can you point out exactly where in my last post to you that amounted to a 'personal attack'?
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