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BLUEBLOCR
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joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 06:58pm PT
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^^^oh yes, yes, please, please. jus tell me who to vote for!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 24, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
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If a Totalitarian Dictator takes over a Communist Government,
and this despot is your regular right wing Authoritarian Leader, like Stalin and Mao.
It happened all over the world at the time, right wing leaders taking power because of the economic turmoil
you can call it leftist all you want,
They for sure disdained capitalism.
But It's still Right Wing Control of the Power
And they hated liberals
They all targeted liberals, since they were the opposition to the right wing tyranny.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
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I agree, Stunewberry. Read it this morning.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-a-unique-threat-to-american-democracy/2016/07/22/a6d823cc-4f4f-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html
Nah000, you should give it a read if you haven't already.
You're considerate and thoughtful, per your posts, I'd be surprised if you didn't think it makes the case net-overall.
I too think the Nazi pics posted up by both sides (and other pics as well) are insanely ridiculous if not shameful. But as it was explained to me years ago here this is only a climbing site forum and supposedly "it's all just in fun that's all".
I am in agreement with John M and August West on many points (previous page or pages) esp re inexperience, temperament, articulation ability, poverty of ideas, and bullying crudeness. Also it's so easy to forget how media magnifies the bad and ugly. By a majority of measures we're doing so much better now than decades past. See the data sets of Steven Pinker (Angels of our Better Nature) and others. Kudos to 300 million plus apes/simians who have found the ways and means to live together in culture/civilization by and large peacefully and adventurously. I think this can be just as amazing to think about - when you consider the whole of the numbers and the statistics - as landing Sapiens on the moon. Amazing. But you have to actually think about it.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
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^^^ where do you think evolution gained it's start? from "conservatism" or "chaos"?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:04pm PT
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There is NOTHING that would allow me to vote for Hitlary. Nothing.
Yes, I know you think Trump fascist. That's how bad Hitlery is....I'd still vote for Trump.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:05pm PT
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Hi Blue
good question, curious as to what answer you would give to your question?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:08pm PT
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he's the greatest business man! why shouldn't he be the greatest politician?
and to you all Emotional-less. why not The Greatest American?
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stunewberry
Trad climber
Spokane, WA
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:13pm PT
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Re; Bluey's question: In geology, Lyell thought the present is the ky to the past; that very small changes to the landscape occurred gradually, over time, through processes no different in scale than happens most of the time. However, most geologic change occurs in major events, think earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, and the response following those upheavals. So, my bet is evolution got its start through a unique confluence of events that got things going. Let the horse out of the barn, and evolution just happens in response to the events that influence life.
Let's get back to Moosedrool's original thesis about being responsible.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 24, 2016 - 12:14pm PT
Kennedy was gonna Make America Great Again, he had vision.
Today he would be moderate Republican, even conservative. A little cliche, but to all the millennials asking where their American Dream is?
I paraphrase Kennedy:
"Ask not what this country can do for you, but what YOU LOSERS are gonna do for this country, other than whine!"
Well this is some of the biggest BS Ever
Congrats bluring
Maybe a review of JFK himself defining what it means to be a LIBERAL will help
[Click to View YouTube Video]
The Liberals are asking you to do something, like have the rich pay higher taxes for your Country! Mutual sacrifice!
Here is one definition of the difference between a conservative and a liberal
A conservative lives as if it's survival of the fittest
A Liberal wants to make sure he's got his brothers back.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
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A conservative lives as if it's survival of the fittest
A Liberal lives to make sure he's got his brothers back.
that's a good one DrFry, i like! but what if my family isn't your family? and it's jus business, you know?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
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Well if they're not from your family, you should make sure the gubmint throws them to the tigers!
Right?
or, all Americans are my brothers, I want my Government to have THEIR back.
and my Government should make sure that all humans have some kind of system that they can access for support
It's not survival of the fittest, we can do a lot better.
Only liberals take this position, the conservatives try and find ways to cut support of our brothers,
because they aren't they're real brothers, so they hope that they can survive w/o gubmint support, they can fight it out.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
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Let the horse out of the barn, and evolution just happens in response to the events that influence life.
"just happens" could you refine that language please?
obliviously evolution is intune to conservatism.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:31pm PT
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Tombstone blues via Trump's wall?
The thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as I best could; but when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge. You, who so well know the nature of my soul, will not suppose, however, that I gave utterance to a threat. At length I would be avenged; this was a point definitely settled--but the very definitiveness with which it was resolved precluded the idea of risk. I must not only punish, but punish with impunity. A wrong is unredressed when retribution overtakes its redresser. It is equally unredressed when the avenger fails to make himself felt as such to him who has done the wrong.
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No answer still. I thrust a torch through the remaining aperture and let it fall within. There came forth in return only a jingling of the bells. My heart grew sick; it was the dampness of the catacombs that made it so. I hastened to make an end of my labour. I forced the last stone into its position; I plastered it up. Against the new masonry I re-erected the old rampart of bones. For the half of a century no mortal has disturbed them. In pace requiescat!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:33pm PT
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all Americans are my brothers, I want my Government to have THEIR back.
so you wanna give 50% of americans high fives, and the other 50% you wanna gun down!?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:34pm PT
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Stop the leg humping BB
it's ugly
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
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Moose
Was the Polish Government Liberal in any way?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:43pm PT
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Politicians in the USA are WAY MORE corrupt than they were in Poland, for sure.
yeah well, we're way more smarter! Ha. what was your original need again?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:45pm PT
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In pace requiescat!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 24, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
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i hear ya now zBro ;)
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