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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
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Jun 26, 2016 - 11:09pm PT
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They had two WW there, why not the thrid
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jun 27, 2016 - 06:51am PT
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Unbelievable racist hate being directed towards immigrant minorities in the UK now.
Unfortunate, not unbelievable. The power elites, don't encounter the current crop of migrants IRL. The people at the lower end of the spectrum economically, do. I think this is an issue that is just beginning to get going and policy, should reflect that.
The Left, continues to drown out opposition, screaming racist and nazi at every opportunity. Doesn't give people confidence that they can govern in a Democratic environment. They've attempted to keep a lid on this and explosion is the result.
Meanwhile, market carnage continues. We're starting to see market validation. Without Brits to prop them up, Italian Banks take a massive hit.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 27, 2016 - 06:58am PT
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I know an older German couple who visited the father land and said they would never go back because of the Muslim presence...
So you know a couple of old, racist Germans. The fact that they're out there isn't particularly surprising...
Curt
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 27, 2016 - 07:20am PT
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It's not the "Muslim presence"... It's the presence of large groups of non-working people who were imported on purpose. You'd get the same thing if you imported non-working and poor Italians.
Look at the large camps of refugees in France, it's a bad scene with aimless hundreds wandering all over area highways.
Look at Sweden with the large groups of middle-eastern children roaming their subways robbing people.
The problem isn't these refugees or imports, the problem is who the Hell brought them there and for what purpose? Homeless children do not wander to Sweden.
These poor people were imported on purpose to sew discord and distract from the real crimes committed by their own governments. All according to plan.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 07:43am PT
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You have to admit that in view of what has gone down with Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland,
and Italy that the EU could be viewed as a sort of Ponzi scheme, although it doesn't seem
that anybody is benefiting other than the Brussels and Strasbourg elites.
I wonder if the latter are still harboring twisted fantasies of bringing Turkey into the 'fold'.
I rather suspect they are, especially if you share my view that all bureaucrats are nihilists
at heart.
À propos, we opened une boutteille de 'Petit Bourgeois' for dinner last night. LOL!
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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Jun 27, 2016 - 08:28am PT
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'Racial Hatred' is nothing new I assure you - In recent years I was employed as an analyst for our local Police Force - Hate crime was not unusual - but it was not topical in the way it is right now.
There is a real danger that the Right Wing in British Political scene, such as the English Defence League, BNP and other brain dead knobs of that ilk will be emboldened by the Brexit vote and think it's safe to crawl out of the woodwork, take to the streets and have a go at anyone they think isn't Engerliiish. (Unless there isn't a happy hour at Weatherspoons).
Regardless, while Brexit won, many, if not most of theose who voted 'Out' would be appalled at the activities of a nasty, racist minority.
Democracy isn't all it's cracked up to be. Hilter was elected Chancellor on the back of a democratic process and see where that led us!
Steve
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jun 27, 2016 - 09:03am PT
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“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”
― Winston S. Churchill
*well, it depends. . . . .
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jun 27, 2016 - 09:17am PT
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You have to admit that in view of what has gone down with Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland,
and Italy that the EU could be viewed as a sort of Ponzi scheme, although it doesn't seem
that anybody is benefiting other than the Brussels and Strasbourg elites.
Indeed. Things are unraveling so fast now, you have to wonder if there will even be an EU for Britain to get out of in two years.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 27, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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Indeed. Things are unraveling so fast now, you have to wonder if there will even be an EU for Britain to get out of in two years.
Similarly, there's no reason to believe there will be a Great Britain in two years either.
Curt
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
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Similarly, there's no reason to believe there will be a Great Britain in two years either.
Curt
Hunh? Is the island going to sink or something?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
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^^^^ Whoa! That is the sure sign of the Apocalypse!
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Jun 27, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
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I rarely respond to these kind of threads, but here it goes:
Putin is licking his chops now that the UK will be so much less of an influence in European affairs. I guarantee many economic sanctions that were levied against Russia in the wake of the invasion of Ukraine will be rolled back fairly soon. Putin is somewhat scared of NATO. But he is (was) terrified of the solidarity of the EU. With the UK departing, that is like removing the keystone from a courthouse.
Does the UK actually think national economics will improve as a virtually completely independent trading entity? The pound will float like crazy without a reference point; the UK voters don't know how lucky they were to have the Euro as a proxy currency. Can anyone say Yuan? The UK may have to pin their currency to the Euro; how embarrassing will that be?
Good luck with energy pricing power from Russia. The EU traded as a block. Does the UK think the EU will welcome back into that homogeneous trading block even if it costs the EU slightly more?
It's already happened, S&P downgraded UK's debt rating. Not exactly Greece, but no longer triple-A.
Will the UK lose jobs? Yep. They will lose positions that require highly educated people. Those people will go to Europe, North America or parts of Asia. Guess what you're left with? The uneducated masses of dipshits who voted for this abomination. And guess what, the dole will run out for these morons. The UK's debt load will dramatically increase over the next few years. It's going to get ugly, folks.
A referendum is one of two forms of pure democracy. And the UK voters did not take this power seriously. You can't roll that back.
Enjoy the fiscal bloodbath. I'm just trying to position myself to make some bread off of their misery.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jun 27, 2016 - 01:45pm PT
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Iceland still in the lead with a couple of minutes of ordinary time remaining. Island 2 - England 1.
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1 min left...
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Iceland won: 2-1
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 01:58pm PT
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It could have been 4-1.
Now I feel sorry for England.
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 02:01pm PT
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go (Iceland) Island!!!
Thinking it's been a real bad
week for England....
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2016 - 02:05pm PT
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Is the market carnage justified or just another act of profiteering? I think it is the latter, having had my 401k destroyed twice before.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jun 27, 2016 - 02:20pm PT
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Iceland played like high-engagement vikings fighting for something they believed in. England played like hired soldiers, too highly paid and too well fed...
I feel sorry for the English team. Returning to England will be no enjoyment. The newspapers will be worse than my words above...
GB has still got Wales...
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