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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2016 - 01:49pm PT
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hey there say, all...
a bump, so we don't forget our canada folks, in prayers...
or, in well wishes...
or in success to get this 'contained'? and out...
:(
and for folks to be safe...
oh my.... :(
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Absolute craziness there. So very similar to the wild fires we experience in San Diego County. (I've evacuated 4 times in 33 years.)
We enjoy life each day til out of no where Armageddon knocks us to our knees or worse.
Let's all keep the Very Most Positive thoughts and Prayers for these our fellow earth travelers. Peace and Hope, lynnie
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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I think one of the differences between socal fires and this one is the lack of suppression. They've lost upwards of 1,600 structures with only 250 people on the ground fighting the fire in a town of 60,000 plus. If it stays like that the whole town will be gone by morning when the weather improves.
Of course the news coverage is pretty sparse and I'm relying on cnn for those figures.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2016 - 08:57pm PT
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hey there say, i'm gumby dammit... say,
as to your quote:
If it stays like that the whole town will be gone by morning when the weather improves.
this is really awful...i was hoping to hear if more
firefighters would show up, :(
side note:
say, bj, say, please, what is this 'steve' stuff,
i did not see the video, can you explain
to help me learn, :)
edit:
say, thanks for this, too:
Of course the news coverage is pretty sparse and I'm relying on cnn for those figures.
i don't always click videos, unless i know them 'better'
as to what they are, :)
say, jim, thanks for the notes, here, too...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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gumby, yes you are right on. If this happened in So Cal, there would be more than hell to pay. But we have had an unfortunate tradition of horrific fires through the years and the powers that be adjust and work toward beating these creatures down. Especially after the last one.
Though one year a gal trying to back her horses and trailer down her driveway was overwhelmed with smoke, couldn't see where she was going, and all went into a ravine and perished. It was the same year 2 of 3 teenage siblings burned to death trying to escape their home. The 3rd survived, but has undergone years of plastic surgery etc. This all happened in our community of Valley Center.
Because of all this numerous changes have taken place and our responders seem to be ready for the worst now.
Poor Canada..........god what those people are experiencing.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2016 - 05:38pm PT
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hey there say, BJ... okay, i will try it, i will check it out...
thank you...
say, lynne... and all, ...
from riley's post:
his siter's made it out from the fire...
they found out, though, that each one, has lost their home...
(if i read the post right, i will double check) ...
whewww... they have their lives, though, and i know riley is relieved...
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John M
climber
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multiple stations have reported this fire grew from 25,000 acres to over 200,000 acres in 24 hours.
One site says 1,100 fire fighters, but they don't say if they are actually there, or being sent.
over 90,000 people evacuated. This fire blew up so fast. incredible.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Strange that so few have commented on the irony here. I'm sure it is compassion that quells the urge to mention it. And I have the most intense sympathy for those who are burned out. Could happen to any of us, and very well might this hot summer. But you have to think - as you sow....
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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^ I completely agree, Wayne. That was my first thought, upon hearing that the city of the tar sands was threatened by wildfire, at the beginning of May.
Its very tragic that people's homes and possessions are being burned up and lost. What's also alarming is few Albertans think that oil should be left in the ground, NOT including local First Nations peoples though.
It was 90F in Fort McMurray this Tuesday, at 56°N. Record high temps in BC and Alberta recently. The boreal forest burning is compounding the problem.
edit - How has this last winter and spring been in Atlin?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2016 - 08:20pm PT
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hey there say, fossil climber, and kunlun_shan...
say, wow, i never knew that, about those areas,
oh my...
say, and of course, families that live in those areas, are the
ones that get hurt, :(
say, ANYONE WANT TO JOIN IN and pray and fast, tomorrow,
for the fire situation, and those in need of help?
please join in.. more is always better, :)
thanks, all...
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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That is completely crazy! I was climbing at a semi-illegal crag in eastern PA 25 years ago during a really dry spell. This crag was situated above a large neighborhood of garden apartments and small single family homes. A guy was trying to start his lawn mower when it caught fire right next to the woods that lead up to the base of the crag.
I'm belaying at the base and start to smell smoke. Then my climbing partner yells that there is a forest fire. Then I hear it. That was really scary. Loud crackling and popping. My climbing partner tops outs and yells down to run around to the right. From where I was, it FELT like I should run to the LEFT. In a moment I chose to trust my partner and I gather the gear in my arms and run right. I can't see hardly anything, breathing is becoming a bit more difficult and now I FEEL the heat from the fire. I'm shocked I didn't crap my pants.
Then I look back and my former belay seat is surrounded by fire. I keep moving along the base of the wall until I find a break and scramble up to the top of the stony ridge (hint).
We both got out unscathed. And the fire department was on the scene now and the fire was abating now that it didn't have too much fuel to burn.
My non-climbing friends tell me how scared of heights they are and could never go rock climbing. For me, I have the greatest respect for the folks that fight forest fires. They, to me, are real heros and ballsy as hell.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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McMurray fire is up to 440,000, but wait:
The Richardson fire (also known as the Richardson Backcountry fire) was a 2011 forest fire in the Canadian province of Alberta. It was located north of the city of Fort McMurray in an area known as the Richardson Backcountry. The fire started in mid-May 2011, and burned over 700,000 hectares (1,700,000 acres) of boreal forest. It threatened facilities in the Athabasca oil sands, and resulted in several evacuations and shutdowns. Firefighting efforts included agencies from several Canadian provinces as well as international crews. The Richardson fire was the largest fire in Alberta since the 1950 Chinchaga fire, and the second largest recorded fire in the province's history.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2016 - 09:29am PT
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hey there say, ... thank you BOTH for the update...
:( sure wish we could hear better news, :( though, oh my...
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