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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Feb 16, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
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Um, don't look, Susan....
This is not a case of someone forgetting to pick it up.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
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Feb 16, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
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WHAT the hell is it with people bagging poo and leaving it? WHAT the freaking hell? Do they think there's some special service that comes by to pick them up? Take the crap home or bury it without the bag. Jeeez.
LOL, BAd - I wish I had taken a picture of the moment...
Recently, the property management company I used to work for has taken on a "dog-poo DNA" consulting firm to mitigate their problems...
That is to say, they take DNA samples of every resident's animal poop.
If you FAIL to curb, Bam!
Maintenance guys (like I used to be - HAHAHA! {sorry for that last bit})
probe the poo, then fine on you.
I had to get out before that - you will understand Reseda could not do THIS to me.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Feb 16, 2016 - 09:04pm PT
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Feb 16, 2016 - 09:07pm PT
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^ Another good reason to wax for the backcountry!
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Feb 16, 2016 - 11:56pm PT
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Funny story. Normally Nacho poops on bushes he has to so he never goes on the trail (except in winter if it's super deep he will sometimes on the skin track, that's what the shovel is for). The other day we hiked to cave rock and on the way back there was an old lady behind us. He pooped on a bush but it rolled out onto the trail i knew I was busted if I didn't pick it up or slide it off the trail but i had a bag in my pocket. I confidently pulled it out and went to pick it up (Haha old lady!). As I went to scoop it up I realized the bag was full of holes but I was so committed to the act at that point I had to suck it up and go for it.
Yeah, the bag made it back to the car.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 17, 2016 - 06:02am PT
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Answering T V from Patagonia. Eliminate the source and the poo problem goes away.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Feb 17, 2016 - 07:01am PT
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I see an opportunity to invent a hip Doggie Poop Tube that looks fashionable next to your Patagucci baby stroller.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 07:13am PT
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As someone witnessed above - they think they will remember to pick it up on the way out. But of course they forget; they don't mean to, they just do, and are almost always too lazy or running late or some other reason which makes "sense" for them to leave it "just this time." Or they ended up not returning by the same path. They may even chide themselves in the moment - but of course its not enough to turn them back and pick up the poop.
I have told people who are poop-bagging and abandoning(temporarily, of course!) that they're "in the woods! It's OKAY to let the doggy do their duty. Just take a stick and huck it away from the trail." One guy actually admitted he wasn't sure he could make the stick do as he wanted.... Oh boy. I grabbed a small branch and flicked a stone with the grace of Tiger Woods on the golf course. "It just takes a little practice." I said with a smile.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Feb 17, 2016 - 01:44pm PT
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We have this problem big time on our local fire roads in the Santa Monicas. I don't get it, especially since at least on the one local "dog friendly" designated fire road there are a couple of trash cans provided to put the bags in. It infuriates me. BS you're coming back for the bag...yeah, right.
And sadly, every visit to the ORG leaves me pissed off too - there's dog poo all over the place especially at the top of the middle Gorge trail. what's up with that, it never used to be that bad?
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
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I just had an idea on what to say when someone says they will come back for it. Say something like: "How important is it to you that a person DOES return to pack it out? Of course they are going to say "very." Then , as if daring them to back up their words - "Well, most of the time people forget, but if you really intend to come back, put a $10 under the bag as an incentive to "remember," and then if you don't remember, at least the person who ends up picking up after you is rewarded for it."
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Feb 17, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
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Drove by Happys today and at least six bags of all different colors were sitting right at the trailhead by the kiosk, full of course, just waiting for the fairy to come by and scoop them up.
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Alexander Kirkpatrick
Trad climber
Carson City
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Feb 17, 2016 - 05:55pm PT
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I just pour bacon grease on the poop near the trail and it is gone the next day.
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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Feb 17, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
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Both the poo and the plastic will degrade in a few years time.
If it really bothers you then use the tip of your hiking stick to snag the loop on the poopy bag and fling it 40' off the trail. Be careful with older bags- if you fling too hard the bag may break on you. Or just hike somewhere else where there are less people/dogs around.
I don't have a dog, but i have to occasionally pick up dog shiit on my front lawn because some DB didn't clean up after their pet. Somethings you just have to let go, or it will drive you mad.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Feb 17, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
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Great topic. Yesterday, our elder collie decided it was time. He carefully cantilevered himself so that his poop went into a hole that would cause any person to at least sprain their ankle if they stepped (tripped) into it. Rather than extricate the feces (if any), we put the bag away and moved along. There are exceptions, right? This is just one example of his unusual "poop etiquette." He practices "in the open" events that obviously need "the bag." But he is often very creative in choosing discrete spots that avoid or defy a logical clean-up. Go ahead, start throwing.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Feb 18, 2016 - 12:35am PT
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Does the idea that it's a desirable skill to flick dog sh#t off the trail and into the woods with a stick bother anybody else, or just me?
I walk off trails all the time...
So Happy, would you be cool with people pooping on the trail, and then "golfing" it a few feet into the rough?
And if you wouldn't be cool with that, why is it cool to fling your dogs turds in a similar fashion? Why don't you walk on the trails? You're just causing unnecessary erosion. If your talking about just going cross country than this really isn't an issue.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Feb 18, 2016 - 06:39am PT
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I think this is way more of a west coast problem than on the east coast. I remember hiking around Woodson last year and seeing a lot of blue poo bags on the side of the trail or flung into bush. We don't get much of that, even in Central Park NYC. Never see this in the Gunks, really.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Feb 18, 2016 - 07:01am PT
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I don't get it either- it's become an epidemic in the Santa Monicas. I don't own a dog but I seem to be cleaning up after them all the time. If you own one you should take responsibility for your animal.
Warbler: I guess expecting dog owners to have principles is asking a lot.
cragnshag said:If it really bothers you then use the tip of your hiking stick to snag the loop on the poopy bag and fling it 40' off the trail. Be careful with older bags- if you fling too hard the bag may break on you. Or just hike somewhere else where there are less people/dogs around.
WHAT?? sorry that's totally NOT OK EVER. Plastic needs to go in the trash. Period. It may break down eventually but it's not biodegradable. If you're a flinger fling the poop sans bag. Those bags don't magically disappear- people who are annoyed pick them up.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 18, 2016 - 07:26am PT
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Sew their as#@&%es shut!!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 18, 2016 - 07:38am PT
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there are bags now with a high percentage of corn starch as their primary ingredient. I don't
know the details but the injection molding guy in the unit next to mine told me they break
down in six months or less. He also said one of the big companies was trying to monopolize
the market and that he hadn't been able to buy the material for six months.
BTW, if you've never seen a machine that makes plastic bags you haven't lived.
Space craft? pffft - cave compared to a bag maker.
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