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Yeah, Wino, I fingered it was sumpin’ like that. 🤡
Engine porn trivia: my new Volvo’s 2.0L mill puts out more ponies/litre than a Ferrari!
https://www.swedespeed.com/features/Technical_Features/volvos-2-0l-t6-makes-power-per-liter-ferrari/
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I noted seeing Roger Moore’s ‘68 P1800 at the Volvo Museum in June. Here’s a nice tribute (and video) to him, to mark the one year anniversary of his passing, and the P1800 by Pelle Petterson, who designed it when he was 25!
The takeaway:
“He refers to the 60´s television series “The Saint” in which Roger Moore played the lead character, the infamous Simon Templar, and drove a white P1800 in all the 118 episodes from 1962 until 1969. The show began as a mystery series but over the years integrated secret agent and fantasy-style plots. The show switched from black and white to color during the mid-60s. During the black and white episodes, Moore would start each episode talking to the audience. For the color episodes, Moore would begin each episode with a narration. After Jaguar rejected the request to use an E-type, Volvo was happy to provide their P1800.”
https://www.swedespeed.com/news/Volvo_News/pelle-pettersson-pays-tribute-sir-roger-moore/
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Tarbuster
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But Reilly … Does your grocery-getter have the handling and the brakes of a Ferrari? (Rhetorical).
And if you stuff it into a corner, is there any kind of cargo retention system to protect those tomatoes?
If I were given to your presumed shopping proclivities, I'd have perhaps considered plunking down for one of these instead, a Volvo 1800 ES:
That sleek, iconic Volvo P1800, designed by Pelle Petterson, was really quite something for a 25-year-old to pen, and to my mind, for 1957, way ahead of its time!
And it still looks entirely unique and very beautiful after all these years.
 Thanks for the commemorative video, BTW.
The car looks great with minilite wheels!
... And you don't see too many of these down at the supermarket:
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Would love to watch some of those old episodes of The Saint.
A bit steep at $130 ... and ... darn it: not available on Netflix!
https://www.amazon.com/Saint-Complete-Roger-Moore/dp/B00S4YGVZM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538625172&sr=8-2&keywords=roger+moore+the+saint
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Yes, the P 1800 is one cool car!
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tooth
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B.C.
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Four seater or two with the AI/spaceX rocket package upgrade.
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Jim Clipper
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I'm pulling for Tesla. Too much performance, beauty, and moreover potential to see it go down in flames, without recognizing the gravity of the loss. Especially when considering the carbon footprint of a Leaf, and the lack of innovation from traditional automakers (infrastructure). That said, I divested when I heard their market cap exceeded Ford's.
Tucker tech? I ain't hatin'
https://www.ebay.com/motors/blog/ebay-listing-fred-flintstones-foot-powered-movie-car/
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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^^^ That thang looks cool but they should lose those two inside lights.
They make it look a jumping spider.
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mouse from merced
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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Reilly, it reminded me of the flies in the sh itter in E Loop at Yellow Pine CG. Yer right.
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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A serious grocery-getter - Audi R8 LMS
Editorial aside:
A Brit up the street has a ‘normal’ R8. He drives it sanely and I can’t say I’ve seen him breaking the 30 mph limit on my street as compared to the myriad others who deem speed limits as beneath their contempt.
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Capt.
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Fall Colors Car Show in Bishop this weekend. :-)
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Tarbuster
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Reilly, your gentleman neighbor and his road manners get the tip of my hat.
Sounds like the kind of fellow with whom I'd enjoy sharing an adult beverage and a relaxed chat.
I suspect he comports himself that way because true enthusiasts don't flash their cars around neighborhoods like uncouth children armed with loaded weapons.
My old man used to drive his X1/9 through neighborhoods well below the speed limit. One of my buddies thought "your dad looks like he's hunting for a race". No, quite the contrary. He had a profound respect for machinery, speed, and public safety. Sure, he got it on under the right conditions, out in the sticks, or exhibited the occasional flash of spirited driving on roads designed for a modicum of speed.
The only place to really let it hang out is at a race track. We have them for a reason.
Then there is Ortega Highway ...
https://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/7670-ortega-highway.html
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Tarbuster
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Fiat X1/9
The X1/9 succeeded the 1969 Autobianchi A112 Bertone Runabout (it) concept, with styling by Bertone under chief designer Marcello Gandini.
The engine was Designed by Aurelio Lampredi, famed Ferrari engine designer before he went to work for FIAT (the parent company, at that time). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_X1/9
Dallara Icsunonove
In 1975 the X1/9 was chosen by Dallara to enter the World Championship for Makes in the Group 5 Special Production class.[19] The Dallara Icsunonove (the Italian pronunciation of "X1/9") featured a modified X1/9 engine with a custom 16-valve cylinder-head and fundamental suspension and body/monocoque alterations, the most obvious of which are the massively flared wheel-arches and the oversized rear wing.[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_X1/9
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Jim Clipper
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because nostalgia... I remember seeing these from the back seat of my dad's CVCC
Never got to ride in my uncle's '65 El Camino. Nominally street legal. 1/4 mile in just under 10 sec. 350 chevy small block, bored, balanced, blueprinted by TRW racing (stroked?) I don't know enough, to know enough. 4 bolt transmission, clutch stall converter? Nitrous under the dashboard. A sleeper. He wanted to give it to me and my brother when I were 16. My mom said, "No.". I miss my uncle.
edit: was, but I'm going to leave it.
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SilverSnurfer
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SLC, UT.
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Oh those Fiat's-so fun to drive..but the electrical systems..Oy vey!
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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I live in Cool Car Heaven...
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Tarbuster
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Something I didn't know about the Pantera:
... when reading up on the Volvo P 1800, which was designed by Pelle Petterson under the tutelage of Italian auto stylist Pietro Frua while Frua's studio was a subsidiary of the prestigious carrozzeria Ghia, is that:
Ghia had partial involvement in the De Tomaso Pantera, a high-performance, mid-engine car utilizing a Ford V8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrozzeria_Ghia
While the very organic coachwork between the Volvo P 1800 and the iconic Volkswagen Karmann Ghia bear some resemblance ...
... I would've expected the Pantera to have been designed by the likes of Bertone or Pininfarina. Sure enough, if you look at the badging behind the front wheel arch of the Pantera, there it is:
And reading up on the Pantera, we get:
Coachwork by Ghia (a subsidiary of De Tomaso)
The Pantera, penned by Ghia's Tom Tjaarda, https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hmn/2010/03/De-Tomaso-Pantera/2943411.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Tomaso_Pantera
Ghia also (by one who would become another esteemed coachbuilder) designed the Maserati Ghibli, which was quite wedge shaped.
Its steel body, characterized by a low, shark-shaped nose, was designed by a young Giorgetto Giugiaro, then working at Ghia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maserati_Ghibli
Then there is the Maserati Bora:
The Bora was designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro at Italdesign. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maserati_Bora
Ah, then, to fully appreciate the Pantera, one must look at/read up on the De Tomaso Mangusta:
The word "mangusta" is Italian for "mongoose", an animal that can kill cobras. It was rumored that the car was so named because De Tomaso had some talks with Carroll Shelby to replace the Shelby Cobra with a racing car to be built in Italy by the Argentine-born De Tomaso ("De Tomaso Sport 5000" a.k.a. "De Tomaso P70"),[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Tomaso_Mangusta
... I'm getting winded here.
So there's lots of relationships and cross pollination between all of these Italian coachbuilders, or carrozzeria in Italian.
Here's an exhaustive list of Italian coachbuilders:
Allemano
Bertone
Bizzarrini
Boano
Boneschi
Castagna
Colli
Farina
Fissore
Frua
Ghia
Giugiaro
Italdesign
Lombardi
Marazzi
Morelli
Pininfarina
Sala
Scaglietti
Touring
Vignale
Viotti
Zagato
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachbuilder
End of nerdly rant!
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Not that I recommend it:
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I like this Pantera music better:
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Jim Clipper
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Some of that stuff is so beyond where I'll ever be. Still, way dreamy.
A shout out to making beer in your bathtub, putting up a keg of plum wine under the back porch, or maybe tearing something down that you have no business fixing (but can't afford to pay someone to do it for you).
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Tarbuster
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Yeah, Jeff (Sewellymon),
At one point I got all hopped up on a Google Images & YouTube search for all things Saab Sonett.
It did lead me to that group of guys who meet up on the Angeles Crest Highway.
Here's a treat, highlighting the spunky V4 engine:
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Tarbuster
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Damn, Reilly:
Just last week a club showed up here on the Peak to Peak Highway with a slew of Ferarri, Lamborghini, and something I'd never seen in the wild, A Pagani Huayra.
I didn't get any photographs. But there were also some of the more suave front-engined Ferarri of more modern vintage...
Photographs do not do this blue Pagani justice. Standing next to it's art-house curves and otherworldly multivalent paint treatment, not to mention the tall, svelte thirtysomething long-maned blonde woman who owned it ... was like experiencing high art.
I think she was waving me down as I drove around the car for a last look in my lowly alpine white 1988 BMW 325 IX, but I couldn't stop to say hello because I was sporting a full-fledged boner!
And one of these was a Ferarri Ferarri GTC4 Lusso.
The example I witnessed had a bizarre color scheme; metallic copper with yellow brake calipers and gold wheels. The couple who owned it were decidedly European: the guy was decked out in snakeskin Lycra, yellow running shoes and easily in his mid-50s, with gray hair and some kind of Gucci sunglasses. Them kids weren't no Americuns! I told his arm piece that I liked the more restrained Ferarri the best, of which theirs was one of two examples. Peacocks, all around, and not just the people!
The other was, I believe, a black Ferrari 550, something like this:
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But, here is the cake-taker grocery-getter of all time, if not one of the ugliest Ferrari ever!
https://hiconsumption.com/2017/08/1965-ferrari-330-gt-22-shooting-brake/
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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^^^ That a hearse for the height-challenged? Thought I knew my Ferraris.
Not sure you could give THAT thang!
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