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High Fructose Corn Spirit
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Feb 29, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
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I'm a big fan of Tulsi Gabbard.
Nutjob, I think you and dingus both have it dialed in on that point, as you pretty much made the same point in your earlier post, just using different words. At least it seemed to me.
I wish I could see Sanders pulling off his "political revolution" along the lines you and he would like. But I just don't. In part for the very point you and Dingus made.
You're a good egg, man. I always enjoy your posts and by and large agree with them.
What Sanders has done, I think, is raise awareness of the basic problems (need for wiser regulation to income inequality) to an all-time high. This is good.
(EDIT You've added to your post. Imo, version 1 was better.)
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 29, 2016 - 02:30pm PT
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Pyro, are you by chance related to Werner Braun?
thanks thebravecowboy that is a compliment...
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 29, 2016 - 02:36pm PT
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think of it as a pig in a blanket
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 29, 2016 - 02:37pm PT
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Tomorrow, it should all be about over for Bernie.
But I don't think the Repubs will be decided, yet.
Consider joining Comrade Norton and I, and reregister as Repub, so that we can support our man Donald.
Make a difference!
Force those parties to understand that "same ol', same ol'" doesn't cut it anymore.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Feb 29, 2016 - 03:59pm PT
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I was overreaching with my attempt to put people into buckets of their foreign policy attitude and who they vote for. People work in mysterious ways, and it is not for me to know what motivates the grand variety. I retract that part.
But I 100% believe that Bernie is the right candidate to lead the US toward a sustainable future, because (1) his vision is the most articulate and consistent with my values, in terms of how the US should conduct its affairs, and (2) he has the integrity to stand by his principles in the face of opposition.
Really the bigger issue, beyond president choice, is fixing the House of Representatives:
A constitutional amendment that the party affiliations of HoR must reflect the distribution of registered voters? Just thinking out lout here, what would be the cleanest way to fix gerrymandering and the state/local level politics that controls it.
Check this article:
http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/05/gerrymandering-rigged-2014-elections-republican-advantage/
If Bernie is president, I think he would look at this issue, raise national awareness, and tackle it head on. He would show how it is not just a political issue of parties vying for power, but a legal issue of having a government that represents the will of the people, and encourage the supreme court to take a stand on it (reversing their 2004 non-action using "politics" as an excuse to not act-- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vieth_v._Jubelirer);.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 29, 2016 - 04:22pm PT
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I agree with Nut on this ^^^^^^^
What Sanders has done, I think, is raise awareness of the basic problems (need for wiser regulation to income inequality) to an all-time high. This is good.
Unfortunately, just raising awareness is not enough
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2016 - 06:34am PT
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Today is Super Tuesday! Both the front runners have a good shot at sending their rivals into a failure cascade today.
Rubio still has a theoretic shot if he can manage to win a big state or two after Super Tuesday due to the RNC's delegate allocation rules which require states earlier in the cycle to proportionally allocate delegates. Florida is the first "winner take all" state and has a lot of delegates. Unfortunately for Rubio, Trump is currently running a 2/3 chance of taking Florida and big wins today (which seem likely) will only increase that gap.
Sanders has virtually no opportunity to win unless there are some big upsets. He will take Vermont and has a solid chance in Oklahoma but that's just not going to do it.
New Hampshire's largest newspaper, the Union Leader, has retracted their endorsement of Chris Christie, admitting that in the light of his endorsement of Donald Trump he was a "bad choice."
Boy, were we wrong.
We endorsed Chris Christie in the New Hampshire Presidential Primary. Despite his baggage, we thought that as a Republican governor in a Democratic-leading state he had the skills and experience the presidency needs (and hasn’t had of late). We also thought he had the best chance to take on and face down Donald Trump.
Watching Christie kiss the Donald’s ring this weekend — and make excuses for the man Christie himself had said was unfit for the presidency — demonstrated how wrong we were. Rather than standing up to the bully, Christie bent his knee. In doing so, he rejected the very principles of his campaign that attracted our support.
Voters here apparently knew better than we. Most rejected Christie but divided their votes among several others, leaving Trump to claim victory. And now, despite specifically telling us that he would never endorse him, Christie is backing Trump.
If nothing else, that might wake up some Trump fans. We will look for that, just as soon as we get the egg off our face.
Unfortunately, just raising awareness is not enough
That's true, but without it nothing at all happens and Sanders' voice/power does not die with his presidential campaign. He has only increased his brand and his pull within progressive and non-establishment circles.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2016 - 09:04am PT
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Paul Ryan just called out Trump for equivocating on his rebuke of David Duke's endorsement. It was heartening to hear Ryan use such strong language even if it was fundamentally a lie.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) issued a stern rebuke Tuesday to the his party’s presidential front-runner, calling Donald Trump’s recent equivocation about receiving support from white supremacists a “fundamental” break from conservative orthodoxy.
“This party does not prey on people’s prejudices,” Ryan told reporters at the weekly House GOP leadership news conference.
Without addressing Trump by name, Ryan noted that the Republican presidential campaign had veered into topics such as views on “white supremacists” that should prompt “no evasion” of the topic other than repudiation of those values.
I think what he meant to say is "this part SHOULD not prey on people's prejudices."
This is why Rubio is losing. Damn.
But don't worry. Carson just dropped a game changer.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Moose, LOL! Bacon and doughnuts....
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2016 - 04:23pm PT
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HARRY ENTEN 7:19 PM
Right now, the updated exit polls have Kasich ahead in Vermont and Rubio dead-even with Trump in Virginia. Given that pre-election polls favored Cruz in Texas, it seems quite possible that four candidates will win on the Republican side tonight. If that happens, I don’t think we’ll be seeing a winnowing of the Republican field any time soon.
Big news with the exit polls. May be more complicated than expected!!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
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You realize those ads are personalized based on all the data Google has on you, right?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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T Hocking! And all I get is this!
Obviously Obama or Trump's fault.
Them un-American SOB's!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2016 - 04:46am PT
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I knew that response would come up,
but seriously I have not googled anything anti Hillary or gun control.
You don't need to. They just infer it from your other interests. They think you're an elderly college conservative/libertarian. Congrats!
Super Tuesday results were more interesting than I expected though not radically different. Sanders managed to pull off wins in 4 states, more than anticipated, but lags in the delegate count 544 to 349. Kasich nearly won Vermont but lost out to Trump.
The chance of RNC insurrection has become very real. McConnell has green lit anti-Trump ads by Republicans looking to keep their Senate seats and numerous prominent Republicans are expressing strong doubt about their willingness to support Trump as the nominee. The language being used is far stronger than I thought they'd use. This has turned out to be a far more interesting campaign than forecast!
RNC operatives are apparently floating an idea to get Carson out of the race by having him run for Rubio's seat in Florida.
Many are also apparently pissed at Kasich for staying in the race as he is costing Rubio votes/delegates. Looks like the whole RNC is on suicide watch and reality is hitting them hard.
Chuck Todd is reporting that neither the Rubio nor Cruz campaigns are seriously considering that they can win outright before the convention and are floating contested convention scenarios. This is going to be amaaaaaaaazing.
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dirtbag
climber
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A contested convention would be ugly, ugly, ugly. I don't see how Rubio or Cruz could emerge from a convention and hope to unite the party behind their campaigns and bring in very pissed off trump voters, many of whom are voting for trump because they abhor these kind of shenanigans in the first place. And of course, trump might go nuclear and start his own damned party.
It's only march, and republicans are already royally screwed.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2016 - 05:36am PT
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Rubio has the party behind him and Cruz/Trump are egomaniacs. I don't see how this ends peacefully.
I should point out that if anti-Trump ads pop up in Repub senate races half of the point will be to distance themselves from Trump's praise of Planned Parenthood for....*gasp*...providing healthcare to women.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2016 - 05:41am PT
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Also, the countdown to Trump's candidacy being called a false flag operation by Democrats to destroy the RNC has begun.
Bill Kristol's streak of being wrong about absolutely everything ever continues:
Man I wish fattrad was here.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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The only thing that saved the GOP is most Super Tuesday delegates were handed out proportionally. Not so March 15 with more winner-take-all states.
They have 2 weeks to stop Trump from destroying their party. Hard to do considering the state it is already in.
After he clinches, wanna bet he suddenly remembers who David Duke is?
HDDJ, Ha! Too funny...Bill Kristol's record is intact. I sure hope he doesn't pick Hillary to win.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2016 - 05:51am PT
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The only thing destroying the RNC is their unwillingness to embrace their complete transformation to the dark side.
Hahaha oh man. This is EXACTLY what a Trump presidency would look like:
Travis County GOP Apoplectic Over New Chairman
The newly elected chair of the Republican Party in the county that includes the Texas Capitol spent most of election night tweeting about former Gov. Rick Perry’s sexual orientation and former President Bill Clinton’s penis, and insisting that members of the Bush family should be in jail.
He also found time to call Hillary Clinton an “angry bull dyke” and accuse his county vice chair of betraying the values of the Republican Party.
“The people have spoken,” Robert Morrow, who won the helm of the Travis County GOP with 54 percent of the vote, told The Texas Tribune. “My friends and neighbors and political supporters — they wanted Robert Morrow.”
Morrow’s election as Republican chair of the fifth-largest county in Texas left several members of the Travis County GOP, including vice chair Matt Mackowiak, apoplectic. Mackowiak, a Republican strategist, immediately announced over social media that he would do everything in his power to remove Morrow from office.
“We will explore every single option that exists, whether it be persuading him to resign, trying to force him to resign, constraining his power, removing his ability to spend money or resisting any attempt for him to access data or our social media account,” Mackowiak told the Tribune. “I’m treating this as a coup and as a hostile takeover.”
“Tell them they can go f*#k themselves,” Morrow told the Tribune.
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dirtbag
climber
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Yeah, I agree. This is tough for then.
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