Do you have to climb a route, in order to post a pic of it?

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Avery

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 24, 2015 - 10:06pm PT
What do you think?

It was recently brought to my attention that I post a lot of pics of routes that I haven't actually climbed. While this is undoubtedly true. I don't really see the big deal with it.

I think it's to everyone's benefit that quality pics are posted.

It will be interesting to see how consistent my accuser will be with the many others who have performed this dastardly deed.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Nov 24, 2015 - 10:12pm PT

Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Nov 24, 2015 - 10:21pm PT
Are you getting bullied? Just ignore them and be yourself.
Avery

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2015 - 10:25pm PT
No I wouldn't say bullied, Spider. It just seemed such a bizarre remark to make.
Avery

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2015 - 10:26pm PT
I'm sorry you feel that way about yourself, Fritz. My condolences.
Avery

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2015 - 10:28pm PT
I certainly try, Jim.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Nov 24, 2015 - 10:29pm PT
Avery, eh? Ain't you that jackass that keeps cluttering up this political forum with random pics of mountains? You could at least give us an "OT" warning in the thread titles. SMH

;)

Here's a photo I posted of a route I haven't done. Didn't receive any grief. Then again, it's pretty obscure, not sure anyone's climbed it yet...
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Nov 24, 2015 - 10:37pm PT
Avery don't sweat it buddy. They are just jibbin' ya!

Lol!

Routes I've never climbed..


Avery

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2015 - 11:08pm PT
Thanks Big Mike.

I'm addressing a primarily American audience (I think). Consequently, a lot of what have to offer on ST is "old hat" to most people.

From a strictly Kiwi perspective, however, it's all very interesting. I get to chat to a lot of famous climbers. In short, it expands my horizons.

Try to look beyond the inevitable "piss take" that will follow this comment.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 25, 2015 - 03:39am PT
"People" here on supersprayhole are not representative of people in general, let alone people or climbers in the US. Do what you want, the d#@&%es will always d#@&%e. You dont have to care what they think, and on the same token, you dont have to interact or share a damn thing with any of them.

Stupid swear filter.

Dooshes will always doosh.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 25, 2015 - 04:04am PT
Do you have to feel slighted, just because you post a picture of a route you haven't climbed, and some one makes a negative comment?

No, there is nothing in the rule book about that. There is no rule book.

There is, however, fickle fingered fate. There is a monument in SoCal to Fate's Finger, and I was gonna climb it with Dwain, but I didn't. I got diddled out of it.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 25, 2015 - 04:06am PT
People here, aren't necessarily representative of themselves!
norm larson

climber
wilson, wyoming
Nov 25, 2015 - 04:19am PT
Avery I read all of your posts and find them quite relevant to a climbing forum. I skip most all of the non climbing drivel on here. Please keep posting.
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 25, 2015 - 04:33am PT
^^^this. Just because the quilting club here gives you grief, it doesnt mean that you did anything in any sort of 'wrong'.

Screw em.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Nov 25, 2015 - 04:36am PT
To answer your question-no.

If someone has the panties in a wad over it then that's their problem, not yours nor mine.
I dig a lot of the images you post, and, thank you for them.

Just remember no one forces anyone else to click on your threads or look at your posts.

cheers
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 25, 2015 - 06:46am PT
If you had to do that there would be virtually no climbing images/media whatsoever.

The implication of climbing photos / videos is that you are witness to an actual ascent. And in the past that was the norm, people nabed some images of what they were up to. In today's era of staged events and GoPro/selfie life, that is no longer the norm.

Unless a photo / video is labeled as an actual event; FA, flash, free ascent etc, you should generally assume that it's not. That it is staged, one way or another, no matter how convincing it may appear.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 25, 2015 - 07:05am PT
Why even ask the question...the answer is obvious.
KristofferSzilas

Mountain climber
Denmark
Nov 25, 2015 - 08:11am PT
Avery, I would like to pose a derivative of that question:
"Do you have to have climbed a route in order to have an opinion about it?"

Certainly a lot of people have something to say about this historic route, but relatively few people have even stood at its base:


Way harder than anything you will find on El Cap and yet people call it a "via ferrata". What does that make El Cap with its miles of rivet ladders?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 25, 2015 - 08:14am PT
Is it,"way harder than anything on El Cap"?
Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, California
Nov 25, 2015 - 08:37am PT
My Dad Invented Climbing

Back in the eighties I climbed for a few years with some heavy stoners from Sacramento who's standing joke wherever we climbed was "My dad invented (fill in climbing words here)!"

Crack climbing, pitons, El Cap, carabiners, hash pipes, beer, pizza, you name it, my dad invented it. It was our way of bagging on braggarts and blowhards we would hear about who acted as if they had seen everything and done it all. Needless to say we were an average lot, but had plenty of fun along the way. I think when climbing stopped being fun and was overly weighted by just pain was when I knew it was time for me to stop. A part of my heart is still out there though, somewhere on a route I never climbed in a region I never went to like the Canadian Rockies, or the Swiss Alps.

But my dad probably already invented those routes. Stay the course Avery.

-bushman
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