Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 07:57am PT
|
Throw a bonin to her in the car. That will work.
Good on ya, you made the best choice. If the 'cake' is the most important to you, go Forester. If the 'frosting ' is most important, get one of the others. All others are gimmicky AWD systems that are not solid like Subaru or Audi. Its simple.
|
|
John M
climber
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 08:19am PT
|
Nice Choice… just make sure it has the right tires on it before you take it to the snow. A friend of mine bought a new Outback in Fresno a few years back. She kept having trouble in the snow, so I checked out the tires. It had all weather tires on it, but they were more summer tires then anything. You can't just look at the brand, you have to check the model number. They use to come with bridgestone potenza. The potenza came in something like 10 different models. Hers was more of a summer tire. It did not have decent traction on ice. They said they were all season, but that is a range of rubber softness.
|
|
johntp
Trad climber
socal
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 09:33am PT
|
Nice Choice… just make sure it has the right tires on it before you take it to the snow.
Roger that. The tires on my 2015 forester don't seem aggressive enough for snow or loose dirt/mud.
|
|
johntp
Trad climber
socal
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
|
Question; on an AWD which wheels get the chains, front or back?
|
|
phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 03:26pm PT
|
Congratulations, John. You're going to love it!
|
|
ryanb
climber
Hamilton, MT
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 03:54pm PT
|
We have a 2015 2.5i CVT forester and love it. its not a truck but it can hit 35mpg on country highways and handle all sorts of bad Montana roads including the unplowed dirt one we live on. No issues with oil consumption yet just after the second oil change.
Friends have Outback's. They are a bit longer, a bit shorter and have a higher towing capacity which would be nice if plans include a camper. Other friends have tacomas...inside feels really cramped.
Stock tires aren't great especially on ice now that they have a bit of wear and a full size spare will be needed for any sort of off road use. The suspension could eat up small bumps better.
Eyeing a set of 15" method racing rally wheels and all terrain tires like this guy has done:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/SKVR6GTI/Method%20Race%20Wheels/14%20Forester%20MR501%20VTSpec%201570_zpsqmmcxwlk.jpg
The book says to only use chains (actually low clearance cables) on the front wheels as the back don't have the clearance.
|
|
Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
|
And i love the backup camera, the moonroof, the seat warmers and the blutooth connectivity
Seat warmers? What a pussy.
( wish I had sprung for them on my Pilot. Sticker shock got the better of me.)
|
|
SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 06:35pm PT
|
Seat warmers? What a pussy.
Meow. Love em' on my 4 runner!
When driving my dad's car in winter in Western Pa I loved the heated steering wheel too!
Meow. Meow. Meow. Purrrrrrrrr
Susan
|
|
crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
|
John, you'll enjoy the way the car handles in the snow. Hope it goes on many a road trip.
|
|
Randall_C
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
|
I'm on my fourth Subaru, which is a 2015 Forester 2.5i. It now has 20k and I have had zero issues with it. Unfortunately, my friend has a 2013 Outback with the 2.5 and is experiencing the oil consumption issue. As for my Subaru, I am very happy with the purchase and plan on driving it as far as it will go.
|
|
Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 09:16pm PT
|
Forester is easier to get and out of than the Outback
My Forester has 230,000 miles and I just pour in a quart of oil with each fill up.
|
|
Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 10:10pm PT
|
Congrats! Driving a new car is a luxe experience, no matter what the car. Its all clean and shiny and new. No wonder your wife is happy.
Yeah, the winter package was something I wrestled over. Really helps the o'dark thirty departures for cragging and skiing and I'm so glad I sprung for it.
Susan, steering wheel warmer! Can I get one aftermarket? Mmmm ...
|
|
BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
|
|
Nov 30, 2015 - 11:02pm PT
|
Subaru, like all mfr's, puts cruddy tires on their cars OEM. They are all season technically, but all seasons are not snow tires, no matter what the quality. If youre going to be doing any snow time, its worth some snow tires for oeace of mind.
Ive said it before and ill say it again, all the AWD in the world wont matter with crap tires. A/S tires trick folks into thinking theyre adequate for the snow, theyre not. You cant rely on them.
|
|
johntp
Trad climber
socal
|
|
Had not heard of the oil leakage issue. That is disturbing. A quart with every fill up? WTF!
And chain all 4 wheels? Jimminy crickets what a hassle.
|
|
BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
|
|
His is clearly not a new forester.
Ledge rat, give us your cars specs.
The oil consumption issue is with the 2011 and up FB and FA engines. The oil issue is a known TSB concerning consumption not leakage. Any old car that has leaks that were not fixed will, well, leak. Oil leaks are fixable, they are from failings of gasketing or seals somewhere. People choose to not fix them, then some complain about how their car chew through oil, or others just deal and add oil. Most of the time its an easy and inexpensive fix that people dodge and end up spending more on replacement oil than the fix itself.
A car is a huge set of variables, everyones will be different. Everyone takes different care of their car, brings it to different mechanics, exposes it to different conditions and workloads. Your results will vary.
|
|
BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
|
|
Yes, they manufacture them next to the Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles.
|
|
Splater
climber
Grey Matter
|
|
Tho Some leaks may be easier, Fixing the head gaskets on a Subaru costs $2000, which I would not call easy and inexpensive.
Still, Overall I'd say my car has been average in repairs needed over its life. And I like it better than generic crv/rav4/etc.
|
|
Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
|
|
Don't listen to these yuppies here!
Get a helicopter.
Werner, any suggestions? I'm on a budget.
I was thinking of a Bell Being V-22 Osprey, but at $72 million, a bit it out of my league. Of course, if I asked for a custom-designed V-022 with a paintball armament ('cause I am a wussy) instead of the machine guns and missles, it might cut the cost down some. Hmmm, decisions, decisions, decisions.
|
|
enjoimx
Trad climber
Yosemite
|
|
I'm on my fourth Subaru, which is a 2015 Forester 2.5i. It now has 20k and I have had zero issues with it. Unfortunately, my friend has a 2013 Outback with the 2.5 and is experiencing the oil consumption issue. As for my Subaru, I am very happy with the purchase and plan on driving it as far as it will g
No new cars have issues at 20k...that's not really an endorsement for Subaru
|
|
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|