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Dogtown.
Trad climber
Marshell islands atoll
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Tom Frost cares, boy is that a under statement! Not only does Tom care about the camp and its history, he cares about all of us too. Just think no camp four! Where would we go to meet up before a climb, to socialize to boulder and the all important bulletin board would all be gone. Not to mention I think it was DR that said; it’s the only real camp with in stumbling distance of the bar! Camp four is a Dump that’s what makes it cool! Thanks for saving it Tom!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Tom Frost had the moral clarity based on the way that he was raised and what he values to understand that if he didn't act decisively then inertia was going to rule the day and mar the land irreversibly.
Do what you can right now to learn more and teach others to be so fine in their decisions, conduct and stewardship.
SUPPORT THIS FILM!
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flatlander_1
climber
San Francisco, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2015 - 07:24am PT
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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They're putting in the Trump Plaza in Camp 4 and the golf course across the street in the meadow.
Didn't the valley have a 9 hole golf course at one time in the deep past?
Nigh every inch of the valley is used for something. Nothing is natural anymore. The best thing about Camp 4 being saved was that it hopefully stopped expansion for overnighters who couldn't camp.
And, of course, it is hallowed ground for climbers. Snell's Field in Chamonix was similar, but was privately owned. The story we always heard that one of the gear sellers owned the land, and let climbers stay there if they wouldn't rip off the store.
Late in the summer of 1984, the Gendarmes showed up and kicked everyone out of the Field. There was a pay campground right next to it, so we all just carried everything a hundred yards away and paid the small fee. I have a picture of the cops running us out. They had dogs, guns, the whole bit:
I'm not sure if that was the end of Snell's, or just the end of it for that season. Does anyone know precisely when Snell's was ended?
It almost cut the heart out of the climbing community. Suddenly it was harder to find people for partners or get route beta. We ended up across the street, Walt, Duane, and I. A bunch of Germans hung on to us, and we had quite the gang by the end of the season.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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BASE 104,
A golf course was later built near the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite Valley, but was removed and converted into a meadow in 1981.
--Schaffer, Jeffrey P. (2006). Yosemite National Park: A Complete Hikers Guide. Berkeley, California: Wilderness Press. p. 258
This is found in the Wiki article on the History of the Yosemite Area.
I recall the visit we first made as a family camping in Yosemite around 1964, when this nine-hole course yet may have been playable.
My father mentioned wanting to play this course, as he was a regular on the Country Club course in Merced.
He was in charge of the busiess office of the Merced telephone exchange where Curry did business,
so I like to imagine that he may have finagled a way to play the Ahwhanee nine one day,
if it was indeed kept up during that time.
It probably went fallow first from neglect and non-use and then the NPS 'meadowized' it.
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flatlander_1
climber
San Francisco, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 07:59am PT
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Access Fund Membership!
Donate $50 today = $100 value. To support a wonderful cause! HALF OFF Today ONLY!
Donate here: http://igg.me/at/frostdoc/x/10880133
Our friends @ The Access Fund are doing great work. 1 in 5 crags in the US has access that is threatened. Our (and more importantly YOUR) friends at the Access Fund have been focused on gaining and keeping access to some of the most important climbs in the country. This perk gains you automatic membership to this vital community- and you get a nifty Access Fund t-shirt! (Plus a thank you credit in the film, of course).
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flatlander_1
climber
San Francisco, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 11:10am PT
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Tommy Caldwell on Tom Frost.. Must see!
What Tommy & Kevin Jorgeson accomplished last January in Yosemite has been called "the worlds hardest climb". We psyched to have them both supporting our film!
48 hours to join us too - http://igg.me/at/frostdoc/x/10880133
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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flatlander_1
climber
San Francisco, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2015 - 09:39pm PT
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Dear Supertopo Family,
Our fundraising campaign that comes to an end Friday, Dec 11th @ Midnight.
As I work on this letter we have raised over $30,000! Unlike Kickstarter, Indiegogo allows us to keep every dollar raised.
What we are personally most proud of is that the most famous athletes in the outdoor world, all sponsored by different brands, are playing in the same sandbox together. This is unprecedented and reminds us every day why this film must be made. The making of the film is not about us, it is about the Tom Frost's legacy and his reputation within the photography & outdoor community.
We were rewarded by this concept by receiving many personal donations from the owners of some of the largest outdoor companies. Symbolic victories for sure!
Have we chosen the hard way to fund this adventure? Yes… But it’s the right way. This is a passion project, not a commercial venture, and we are trying to capture history in the "best style" we can before it goes away forever.
Again, there are very few times in your life when you get an opportunity to create something so important that can inspire change.
“It’s not that you got to the top, it’s how you do it that matters.” Tom Frost
That said, we still need financial assistance and would be truly grateful for any donation you can afford during this time of giving. Click Here To Donate!
The best part is we have perks donated by the biggest outdoor brands in the world to reward you for your generosity & just in time for the holidays! (We also have artisan chocolate.. to keep for yourself shhhhh)
All perks, from $1.00 on up, grant you a special “thank you” in the end credits of the film. Your name will be attached to history. How cool is that?
Check out the perks here: http://igg.me/at/frostdoc/x/10880133
To all of you who have already donated, shared, told your friends, etc. a heartfelt THANK YOU from all of us at Flatlander Films!
Wishing you and your loved ones a peaceful & warm holiday season!
Sincerely,
Tom Seawell
Director I Flatlander Films
415 370-7535 I www.flatlanderfilms.com
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Jan 12, 2016 - 10:57am PT
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 12, 2016 - 11:09am PT
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I'm not sure how I missed this thread, so I apologize for missing your fundraising deadline. At least it makes me feel good about supporting the Access Fund, which has served climbers well, IMHO.
Didn't the valley have a 9 hole golf course at one time in the deep past?
Yes, BASE104. It was a pitch and putt in the meadow east of The Ahwahnee. I always wanted to set up a tee box in the Jungle and see if I could drive one of the holes. By the time I was sufficiently competent to hit the ball with that kind of distance and accuracy, the course was long gone.
John
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Jan 22, 2016 - 12:47am PT
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I just came across this file from my archives. It is a short piece I wrote for the Boatman Quarterly Review when I was a river guide in the Grand Canyon when we were facing a similar issue in GCNP.
http://bigwalls.net/climb/NEPA.html
I have recently revamped my bigwalls.net website as well with lots of new stuff.
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flatlander_1
climber
San Francisco, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 11:47am PT
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Hello FOTF, (Friends Of The Film)
Whew! We are finally done making and shipping t-shirts, prints, backpacks, tents, shoes, sunglasses and Tom Frost Nuts. We hope you love your perks!
Things are exciting on the movie making side as well. With you support, we’ve been able to continue to produce valuable footage. This weekend we are off to Las Vegas for the Red Rocks Rendezvous (thank you Mountain Gear)- please be sure to stop by and say hello if you’re around!
Later this month Doug Robinson will join us on a trip to North Carolina as we spend a weekend getting to know Kai Lightner and filming him on some of the local rocks.
We continue to forge amazing partnerships- and while we’ve come close to getting the entire film funded with a couple of large companies, the search for just the right title sponsor continues. We feel great about our momentum and look forward to spending an entire month in the Valley this fall filming Kai, Doug and a collection of some of the worlds elite athletes.
Thank you for your continued support and confidence in the project. We continue to accept donations on our Flatlander Films website and are working hard to create a film that will make Tom proud and you entertained!
Get ‘er Done!
Tom, Jeff and Craig
http://www.flatlanderfilms.com
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flatlander_1
climber
San Francisco, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2016 - 08:59am PT
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Dear friends of the Tom Frost Documentary.
We are going to be shooting in Yosemite for ten days (Sept 24th - Oct 2nd) and we are in need of donated RV.
We can provide insurance, food, libations, gas money and camping for ten days.
If interested please email tom@flatlanderfilms.com or Call 415 550-1807.
Thank you!
Tom Seawell
Director @ Flatlander Films
415 550-1807
tom@flatlanderfilms.com
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