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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 22, 2015 - 09:27am PT
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Saw a headline yesterday, "ISIS SUICIDE BOMBERS HIGH ON DRUGS"
Because that's what is scary, not the bombs but the idea they might be using the same sh#t we are...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 22, 2015 - 10:09am PT
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I haven't had the opportunity to watch CNN lately, because I haven't been to an airport for a while.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Nov 22, 2015 - 10:42am PT
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CNN Cranks the organ..The Zionist -clown bag - monkeys dance the Chevron jig... Thousands drown in zombie drool...Stupid aszholes !
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 22, 2015 - 10:43am PT
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Craven News Network. Remember when they had some credibility?
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Dave
Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
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Nov 22, 2015 - 03:14pm PT
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For what, speaking the truth?
LOL.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 22, 2015 - 05:56pm PT
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CNN's problem now is that they don't pay enough to attract real talent, not
that they would give them the freedom to be real journalists if they did
hire them now. They have people on there now that seem barely literate to me.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 22, 2015 - 06:07pm PT
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The Fox/shock radio brainwashed crowd loves to bash CNN. One of the reasons I tune in.
"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down," the Republican presidential candidate said at a Nov. 21 rally in Birmingham, Ala. "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."
The truth :
Trump said he "watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.
This defies basic logic. If thousands and thousands of people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks on American soil, many people beyond Trump would remember it. And in the 21st century, there would be video or visual evidence.
Instead, all we found were a couple of news articles that described rumors of celebrations that were either debunked or unproven.
Trump’s recollection of events in New Jersey in the hours after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks flies in the face of all the evidence we could find. We rate this statement Pants on Fire.
Starting a thread to get sympathy for Trump - pathetic.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Nov 22, 2015 - 06:16pm PT
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Natural News and Breitbert.
What's next Couchmaster? Alex Jones?
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Norton
Social climber
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Nov 22, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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There is no lie going on
Trump clearly called for muslims to register and have a national database of it
Hillyard: Should there be a database or system that tracks Muslims in this country?
Trump: There should be a lot of systems. Beyond databases. I mean, we should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it.
[Some talk about Trump's wall on the Mexican border ensues.]
Trump: We have to stop people from coming in to our country illegally.
Hillyard: But specifically, how do you actually get them registered into a database?
Trump: It would be just good management....
Hillyard: Do you go to mosques and sign these people up?
Trump: Different places. You sign ‘em up at different, but it’s all about management. Our country has no management. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/yes-donald-trump-agreed-we-should-have-national-registry-muslims
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 22, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
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Couch,
Stupid, deluded, brainwashed, bored or all of the above? Hmm, maybe you're just a troll. That would explain alot.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 22, 2015 - 09:23pm PT
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More like on a troll. I have a hard time believing couch would vote for Trump.
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couchmaster
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2015 - 10:04am PT
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You guys are having some cognitive issues. Not a troll and it's not about Trump. It's about the news. Take a moment and substitute your favorite candidate in there. Lets imagine that they edited a video of Hillary to radically change the meaning of what she said so as to demean her in voters eyes. How would you feel on that? I'd still feel as if I do now. This would still be about the news, not about Hillary. As far as that goes, I still feel Operation Mockingbird was a terrible idea which hurt us much more than it helped. Trust, once it's breached, is difficult to get back. Reference links to get your started:
http://www.popularresistance.org/operation-mockingbird-cia-media-control-program/
http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
As far as my view on Trump, I've said repeatedly he'd be a poor President. A better one than Hillary no question, but a terrible choice. Regardless, he won't be the candidate from his party and Hillary will. I said last August:
QUOTE : "Aug 26, 2015 - 11:29am PT
I can't imagine any scenario where Trump is the Republican candidate. Not. Gonna. Happen. He's up over 20 percent in the polls over the next most popular dude right now, but even the most clueless will be waking up at some point, and when they do, I imagine that the hangover and regrets will rival looking into your angry wife's eyes the morning after any hooker, heavy drinks and multiple drug overdose evening.
Trump. Not. Gonna. Happen."
So don't worry about Trump, worry about the lies you are being told by CNN, FOX and lord knows whom else. Hard enough to sort the wheat from the chaff already with the intelligence community being involved the news you read. (IE, the 28,000 full time Pentagon PR flacks who try and filter what you read so the news doesn't make our country look bad)
It's about hoping that we can get at least a sniff at the truth via the News Media.
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John M
climber
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Nov 23, 2015 - 10:12am PT
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I agree Couchmaster. I think twisting the news, or making stuff up is reprehensible. No spin zone my ass. And yes.. I know thats bill Oliely's catch phrase, but they all act like it, and few actually are. Its disgusting what the news has become.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Nov 23, 2015 - 10:53am PT
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Complaining about the news is like complaining about your date.
If you don't like what you see, look somewhere else.
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John M
climber
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Nov 23, 2015 - 11:02am PT
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except 98 percent of the dates are liars. So its hard to find that 2 percent.
If he had said Fox news is a lying bunch of dirty bastards, I bet some of you wouldn't be complaining.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Nov 23, 2015 - 11:02am PT
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Moose,
Thanks for the insight. Always nice to be reminded that there's a real person behind the handle.
While I agree that news media should aspire to be, well, journalists in the truest sense of that word, how is it anything but hypocritical to argue that CCN is spinning when you receive your "news" from Fox or, god forbid, Breitbart. That guy was Dick Cheney's lap dog.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 23, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
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Agree, John M. I've always spent more time reading news stories from sources that tend to favor viewpoints opposed to mine, partly because I can see their biases more easily than I can those of sources that tend to agree with me. The distortions that modern journalism seems to tolerate drive me nuts, but then I look at headlines from 100+ years ago and realize that nothing has changed. In one sense, Werner is right. Anyone who relies on a single news source will end up hearing lies.
I must reluctantly and respectfully disagree with Werner on one matter, though. The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times still report news with greater care than most other sources. No source can eliminate its biases, because all people have them. They can, however, strive for objectivity, which both New York publications do.
If nothing else, the internet - that scourge of professional journalists - makes it easier to find the truth, because we can get our hands on so much verifiable information quickly and cheaply. Unfortunately, that requires effort that few care to spend. I wish we all had the time and desire to search for truth rather than accept sound bite descriptions from people aiming for deception.
John
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