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c wilmot
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:38pm PT
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You dont import them^^^
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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Yep, attacks on Russia and France are Obama's fault. Oh wait. There are a bunch of other countries involved! I thought the US was the only one with a dog in this hunt, caused by 'Shrub.
Did the IQ here just drop 30 points or sumthin'?
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:42pm PT
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^^^^^^^^NO dumbazz... the attacks are GW's fault. All of em. Big time.
France is now under a State of Emergency and complete control of the State. First time since 1944.
Over 100 dead and unknown injured. Appears ONLY 10, maybe 12 doods, carried this all out. Yup, ISIL is just a shetty azz JV Team.
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
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Funny (but not funny) how when a nation realizes the shortcoming of their policies, it's already too late.
Probably a matter of time before we're dealing with this same type of thing here.
France was the only major western power that tried to dissuade GWB from invading Iraq, which was the trigger for this entire mess, and the right wing morons here made Freedom Fries jokes about it. It should be clear which nation's policies have more shortcomings.
There's no "probably" about it happening here, only a question of when and where.
TE
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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For the record, I think Obama could have been more on top of this, but trying to hang this whole thing on him is so weak. How about the euro's police their 'hood?
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:51pm PT
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Moderate Muslims in America take note. The most extreme and oppressive elements of your religion in Europe will now face the wrath of the most extreme and oppressive elements of the far right- Good luck with that...
My question in all this:
Did the Shaw, Sadam, Kadafi and Assad breed this radicalism through their opression or- is this radicalism inherent in those particular countries and they did the dirty work that had to be done?
Let's face it, Christian's, Jews, women, gays and secularism fared much better under their tyranny.
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The Chief
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
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France was the only major western power that tried to dissuade GWB from invading Iraq, which was the trigger for this entire mess
Oh that makes so much sense and logic that the Bad Guys of "this entire mess" attack "the only major western power that tried to dissuade GWB from invading Iraq".
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
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For the record, I think Obama could have been more on top of this, but trying to hang this whole thing on him is so weak. How about the euro's police their 'hood?
Obama's incompetent and misguided policy decisions as regards Syria and Iraq from the moment the community activist narcissist took office ---are at the root of the ISIS jv team.
Obama's inability to take take truly effective action against them from the outset has resulted in the tragedies we see in France, and will continue ,because Obama is ideologically incapable of dealing with Islamic terrorism. He lacks the will and determination and smarts of a truly effective leader. He is in politics because he likes the narcissistic supply he gets when people are adoring him.
The metastasis that is this ISIS group is now spreading to the rest of the body. The only surgeon we have is Obama --- and he is a quack.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 13, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
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If you've been in Les Banlieues you wouldn't wonder at where the radicalism
comes from. Those places are the equal of Detroit and Chicago's worst slums.
And to make them worse the French police have made them no-go zones for a
long time, just as the Swedish cops have. The French have bent over backwards
to give them free education and opportunities and this is what it has brought them.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:04pm PT
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This will end like it did in the 40's with millions of deaths and people shipped in box cars.
The one open question is who will be in the box cars.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b83_1447437819
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:06pm PT
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where do I sign up to ship all those OTHER people away in boxcars, TGT?
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:06pm PT
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Never come to an instant conclusions when it comes to politics
Always ask yourself,who ultimately is benefiting from this
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:07pm PT
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This sh#t will only stop when the Muslims who claim to be in the majority... you know- the moderate ones.... get fed up with a small minority (ISIS)and go smack them down.
The French suffered so much in WW1 and WW2 they became strong pacifists. That was long ago, the French, much like Americans, can wake up in a real pissed off mood.... I would not be surprised if they did something big.
Like Kick every Muslim out of France for starters.
And this festering mess that is the middle east started long before GWB was born. The French and English, drawing straight lines on a map in 1919 didn't help matters.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:07pm PT
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France has deployed their military. I guess this means they have 6 weeks paid leave in the Greek Isles?
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The Chief
climber
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:13pm PT
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Oh, almost forgot, France btw is one of the strictest Anti-Gun Controled states on this planet.
HEY Guy, don't be surprised if the FFL (13 DEMI Brigade) is fully deployed to Syria and Iraq within the next couple of days with open orders to hunt down and terminate on sight as many ISIS JV players as possible. They are btw one of the best "Head Hunter Teams" on planet earth. They make ST SIX look like a bunch of JV Cheer Leaders.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:13pm PT
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Happy Birthday Medusa...rj
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
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yes this is about gun control. ;-)
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
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Of course, the right-wing forum crazies are already exploiting this terrible tragedy to attack our president. Pathetic creeps.
Thoughts and prayers to the people of Paris.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Nov 13, 2015 - 05:16pm PT
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Sorry to interrupt the political speculations and expert opinions... Just think this is really sad and makes my heart sink.
Thoughts and prayers to all those affected and anyone with friends and family in Paris like my roommate.
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How does this (yet another) attack fit in with Article 5 of the NATO treaty (an attack on one is an attack on all)?
Let us know!