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zBrown
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 7, 2015 - 09:07am PT
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jstan
climber
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What site is this? Pool storage 90 feet from the ocean?
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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The only reason San Onofre closed is because the private monopolies knew they had the PUC in their pocket to dump most of the costs on ratepayers.
Nothing like kleptocracy approved risk-free huge profits.
Without that insider scam, it never would have closed.
Oddly enough, the most effective ratepayer advocate, Michael Shames of UCAN, was ruined by the insider idiots. This left an opening for TURN (a bay area agency) to involve itself in Southern Cal utility issues, which they "turned" out to be wildly unqualified to do. TURN approved the closure and the bailout and got paid to be the puppets.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/sep/28/intervenor-compensation/
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couchmaster
climber
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I'm sure it will be as safe as Fukishima there with all the earthquakes you have. No worries. Whatever happened to the Federal Nuclear fuel depository they were planning on siting in Nevada?
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Easy...rods go into barrel. Barrel goes into lead lined vault. Heat Exchanger goes on vault. Neighborhood wired to exchanger inverter. Free power for a few hundred years.
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couchmaster
climber
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I'm sure it will be fine in that corrosive sea water environment. When it fails, I'm equally certain nothing bad will occur to the ecology of the area and that no one in California will sue nor will there be any financial liability of any substance.
These are not the drones you are looking for.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2015 - 04:45pm PT
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The site permit approved Tuesday by the California Coastal Commission is only for 20 years, but opponents of the storage plan worry that steel casks packed with nuclear waste may linger at the site for generations to come, and might deteriorate to the point where they cannot be removed.
The permit is expected to be challenged in court.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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unclearnuclear
and Blinky has his doubts, toowhat WILL Marge do?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Corruption is endemic anymore. Sad times for America and Americans.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2015 - 05:03pm PT
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Lest anybody forget, the plant which has been forced to be shut down was designed and operated by "experts" in the nuclear energy field. These very same folks are designing and will operate the storage area.
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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I have seen first hand how rods just like these are stored. The first problem is of course that there is no national repository. Thank politics for that one. While I do not condone placing them so close to the sea, your guys pent up energy about how power plants store their waste is of course misplaced.
Coal fired plants have exemptions from many environmental laws and these have resulted in many incidents where fly ash laden with heavy metals have leaked to the environment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Fossil_Plant_coal_fly_ash_slurry_spill
The Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) initially estimated that the spill released 1.7 million cubic yards (1.3 million m³) of sludge, which is gray in color.[1][2] After an aerial survey, the official estimate was more than tripled to 5.4 million cubic yards (4 million m³) on December 25, 2008.[1][3] The spill covered surrounding land with up to six feet (1.8 m) of sludge.[4] The EPA first estimated that the spill would take four to six weeks to clean up; however, Chandra Taylor, the staff attorney for the Southern Environmental Law Center, said the cleanup could take months and possibly years.[5] As of June 2009, six months following the spill, only 3% of the spill had been cleaned and is now estimated to cost between $675 and $975 million to clean, according to the TVA.[6]
Again, I do not condone placing the spent fuel near the ocean, but from an environmental perspective, that stuff is way safer than coal plants.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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The first problem is of course that there is no national repository. Thank politics for that one.
Under Dingy Harry's house would be a fitting place.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
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Coal fired plants have exemptions from many environmental laws and these have resulted in many incidents where fly ash laden with heavy metals have leaked to the environment.
These heavy metals I assume are quite dangerous, but as dangerous as radioactive trash?
If there were as many incidents of nuclear leakage as fly ash, wouldn't we be a bit more concerned?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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The difference is all the spent nuclear fuel ever produced would easily fit under Dingy Harry's house
Fly ash?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
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Well, at least we know now where to put the spent nuclear fuel, eh?
Nobody lives in, or near, the fly ash dump?
I assume both "by" products cause chromosome damage just like LSD.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 7, 2015 - 07:00pm PT
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Is anyone working on nuclear-fly-ash bricks?
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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I had a friend that worked the super-fund thing for years - he had a crazy story from New Jersey about a dump site and old oaks feeding off the rusting barrels.
I will just say this: sick but alive; glowing, horrific sap when they cut them down. The trees adapted - barely...
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