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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:30pm PT
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^you know the list I could generate like that for humans? rock climbers? retro-bolters?
those face-kisses, though, you're totally right. absolute PITA. I mean I have to pull out my micro-biner'd hand-sani after each one. some of use shaved today!!! YUK!
and yeah, my dog will totally nut-tap/ass-tap anyone, first-time, with his nose. old ladies, little kids. whatever....like I don't drool over whatever pound of viable flesh walks by, in my own way. you think my woman likes my dog-like glances, my indiscriminate nut-scratches, my penchant for pissing in the yard, right on the petunias?
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:40pm PT
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you ever pet a human, man? I mean the stink is slightly novel, but yuuuuuuuuuk!!!!
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:41pm PT
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Dog eats stool.
and then becomes Americas best friend .....
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:43pm PT
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I licked one the other night. I was like gross but I got used to it. She liked it. Sacrifices.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:49pm PT
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yeah they're a f*#king sh#t-ton of work, cleaning up the excrement, providing food, medicine, obedience guidance. but really, they provide more joy (for me) than they cost.
-never say no to a hike;
-perpetually stoked to greet the day with you, no matter the conditions;
-possess integral fleece, but better;
-ballsy as f*#k about cl 4/5 descents;
-never bitches;
-emotionally attuned in a way that many folks are not;
-always game for another lap around the block;
-don't drink your beer or smoke your smokeables;
-will throw down in a heartbeat for you, against that cougar/rabid 'yote ...also a likelier target on those long runs;
-tests my sex partners for VD/infidelity/fertility (why you think he's always up in her sh#t?);
-carries his own weight backpacking, totally (plus my camp shoes);
-slays the opposite sex with his good looks and infinite charm;
-knocks about 1/100th as much rock as humans, when scrambling above;
-lets me know when bears approach camp;
-always viable no matter the adventure or his particular weakness with the task (dude turned into a hell of a boater!!)
I will trade it for some outdoor dookies that I needa pick up, being a proper master, etc.
EDIT: for werner.
Dog eats human stool; pig eats dog stool; human eats sh#t-fed pig bacon, cylce begins anew. this is nothing new. and stool-eating may have something to do with gut health. why do humans dying of antibiotic poisoning survive after (this is crazy) STOOL TRANSPLANTS? Because sh#t carries more than just crap.
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Oct 23, 2015 - 09:54pm PT
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At least you can sit on a stool.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2015 - 10:43pm PT
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Warbler for the win
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Oct 24, 2015 - 05:56am PT
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Since people give dogs people status I treat dogs like people. Some people and dogs are born as#@&%es and they usually don't change regardless of who their owners are. I tend to like dogs who are really cool and I feel a connection to. there are many dogs and people I have zero interest in haveing a connection with.
Fact. no one loves your dog or cat as much as you do. Of course it's exceedingly rare for us to bring our cats out in public and force them on other people. At least 50% of the people who tell you they don't mind your mutt slobbering all over them are just being polite. 99% of the people who tell you they don't mind your mutt barking at them are being polite. Yes we do mind. Yes we know it's considered rude to object to your right to impose your mutt on us so we are polite and tell you it's ok and lie about how awsome the filthy beast is..
last week at the music jam a good friend of mine brings is scraggly little shitt dog that looks and smells like a dirty mop head. The thing takes up residence on top of my wool jacket which was on my guitar case. My friend asked if it was ok and commented (in baby talk) on how sweet she looked curled up in it. I was polite but I was also a bit grossed out with that scraggly mutt on my jacket......
red and black checkered woolie with scraggly white sh#t dog hair all over it.. C,mon man..............
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 24, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
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When you provide food, housing, medical care, affection, grooming, treats, play dates, transportation etc. etc. and are expected to follow around behind them picking up their sh#t, who is really in charge?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 24, 2015 - 01:50pm PT
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spectreman
Trad climber
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Oct 24, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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I would much rather spend time with a good dog as opposed to the miserable SOB who started this thread and all the other "haters" posting on this site.
What a bunch of cry baby 3 year olds. Waaaa, the doggie might lick me, waaaaa the doggie might jump up on me, waaaaa waaaaaa
You all are too busy with your little group masterbation party to see any good in the world.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Oct 24, 2015 - 07:53pm PT
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When you provide food, housing, medical care, affection, grooming, treats, play dates, transportation etc. etc. and are expected to follow around behind them picking up their sh#t, who is really in charge?
I take it you have no children ?
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Oct 24, 2015 - 09:25pm PT
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Why did you buy a dung-a-lo on Dog Doo Lane if you hate dogs??
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 25, 2015 - 08:57pm PT
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Good shot, Ricky!
Got two. With luck, they'll do the same for me before too long.
And no, I didn't have 'em spayed.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Oct 25, 2015 - 11:34pm PT
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Is this a political thread?
Okay, if not, I'll bite.
I have a lovely 11-month border collie-lab mix, Aggie.
I grew up in California with dogs, cats, horses, goats, even a monkey (that will invite a lot of comment I am sure).
I just brought a kitten, Betty, into the house from the SPCA. Aggie and her are best of mates after a few days.
Yes, dogs can be a pain, so can nuclear weapons.
I understand if people do not like dogs, especially unruly ones.
I took a border collie-lab mix from Wales to London to California to Ireland. He was my little boy.
Really though, are dogs any worse than say, gang members in LA?
Gnome, that is a real good video, it explains a lot.
EDIT
Norwegian, my comment earlier about your doggerel was meant to be light hearted, I did not mean to offend you, I have enough issues in life without pissing off people.
I am a zoologist by training and vocation, I make my living as a journalist. Though I was a full-time carer for Jennie until she went into a nursing home.
Aggie is a well-behaved dog, people love her, but she is not perfect. Neither am I.
(Another Edit)
And I can still lead 5.9 (HVS), but scared every time. Watch me, tension!
To add, Aggie is a great pup, I know that it takes a dog person to appreciate a canine friend. A friend that has been with us for thousands of years, that we fed and that protected us. I also understand why people are averse to dogs, but why? They can be more loyal than a lot of humans, and I have a kitten clawing at me now, little rascal.
MORE EDIT
So some of you complain that a dog sh*ts and you may step in it. Hmmm, not nice, dog crap. But what do us humans put on this earth, feces?
I ALWAYS pick up after my dogs, always. In London, California, Dun Laoghaire, every place. How many of you pick up your trash? I thought so.
Really though, are dogs any worse than say, gang members in LA?
Or climbers at Stoney Point? oops, I am a northern Californian, I should not write that.
More EDIT
His name was Ci ("key"), Welsh for dog, not very original am I, Ki in Britanny, France (Madra in Irish but Goildelic/Gaelic Celtic and Brythonic Celtic are different).
Not many similarities, though Cú is hound in Irish. Ci, cú close.
In German, hund/huande, French, chien, close to ci I suppose.
I am not a linguist, but a zoologist and journalist, and a dog lover.
One more edit
It's blowing a gale here, must be Patricia, wait, she is in Mexico, headed to Texas, last I heard.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Oct 26, 2015 - 03:39am PT
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Limping-CRAB,
your name explains how you deal with problems. Let's take a look at some of your evidence and conclusion.
And sorry to tell you, dog lovers, It's called the limbic system and mostly in the amygdala which, as a matter of fact, is not the same as in humans. i.e. they're missing the important parts. Go ahead and argue that they have higher level emotions but it's the scientific equivalent of arguing that humans have wings; we can observe and measure its absence, too bad, Scruffy doesn't love you .
We can note the absence of a structure but other structures can make up for the workings of a missing/underdeveloped structure. You have merely said that since dogs lack some structure that humans have, you then concluded dogs could not possibly have such and such properties because humans get that property from such a structure.
The conclusion is just dumb assed reasoning from you. You and that dumb assed science you quote haven't actually shown what dogs actually feel/think.
Try this: Take a trip to Mexico, pull off at some scenic site and then take a short hike in the that small locale. The human shite that is everywhere is more disgusting that some dog ....
BTW: The whole world is poopy!
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Oct 26, 2015 - 08:35am PT
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To add, Aggie has been a great friend and companion in the "loss" of Jennie.
She doe not poop in the house anymore (that stopped months ago, when she was about five months old), and when on the beach ONLY (other dog walkers are amazed) goes in the surf (never on the beach, though I still carry plastic bags). She only relieves herself in the surf, I have never seen that before, must be some sort of hygiene trait.
No sense in picking it up as the tide carries it out. I tried once, but the surf took it out. Sorry beach surfers, but I would imagine that you put worse into the sea than Aggie does. Again, other dog walkers are amazed that Ags only poops and pees in the sea, never on the beach.
As a sailor and former surfer I know that I put "crap" into the sea, though I try not to.
The Celtic Sea stretches from Ireland to France and Spain, I do not think a little dog poop will make a difference.
I cannot remember when I was toilet trained, can any of you?
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Oct 26, 2015 - 10:18am PT
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I have been sent an email that says I claim to always pick up after my dogs, and yet I let Aggie poo in the sea. Okay, point taken. I am a hypocrite.
But even other fellow dog walkers agree, when Ag's poo washes away, nobody is going to step in it.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Oct 26, 2015 - 10:31am PT
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Kevin I have a cat. Boots died in April, he is buried in the backyward, the best grave I could make, the plaque reads...
Boots
In Loving Memory
Jennie and Patrick
I just wrote Jen in the nursing home, telling her of Boots' demise, I have been holding off all these months so as to not distress her. She loved Boots, asked if he could be in the nursing home with her back in December.
I got the pup Aggie in March. I did not mind (well… truth be told) cleaning up after her in those first few weeks.
Now, I have a kitten literally sitting on my shoulders (brat cat), Betty, named after my dear late mother Elizabeth. She and Aggie hit it off within hours, no make that minutes, of meeting. Both from the Wexford SPCA.
If I could take a selfie, Betty is literally sitting on my shoulder, sort of like a parrot on the pirate's shoulder in the movies.
Jennie is in a nursing home for the foreseeable future, I love her. But I have a puppy and kitten that are making great companions.
I understand people not loving dogs, I am not one of them obviously.
Dogs have been with us for tens of thousands of years (depending on your view), wine about 6,000 years, beer about 3,000 depending on what science you ascribe to.
I love my puppy and my kitten (she is tiny, she'll grow but I don't think she will be a big cat). And she is still sitting on my shoulder, brat cat.
Dogs are okay, great in fact, it's the human that really makes the difference.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 26, 2015 - 10:38am PT
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If a dog is still barking it is clearly under done.
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