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dirtbag

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 01:57pm PT
Byrd has a poor record on civil rights in the 50s and 60s, was an active kkk leader in the 40s, and I'm sure was sympathetic to the Klan in the 50s.

But you said he was active for 60 years at the national level, which is made up.

You're sliding around your previous statement.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
You do know who this LONGEST SITTING SENIOR DEMOCRAT OR REPUB SENATOR in US History is and his very active role in the national level of the KKK leadership for well over 60 years, is...

That's what you said.

The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
Keep making excuses for you racially charged and totally prejudice Democratic Senior Sitting Senator, Byrd. Dirtbag. Goes in line with anyone here that would do the same for.... GW!


dirtbag

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
I didn't make any excuses: I said he had a poor civil rights record. Don't put words in my mouth.

I never voted for him nor did he represent any place I have lived. He wasn't my senator or Representative.


You presented a fact, and when asked to back it up, couldn't but instead, deflected.

You could just admit you were mistaken, but dug in instead.

It's amusing, actually.

The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
And here was some of Democratic Senator BYRD's Gun Control voting ...

Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:

Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought
Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations
Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices

Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005

Out.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:06pm PT
So. 60 years in the national kkk.

What's your source?

Or would you like to retract your claim?
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:10pm PT
Prove me wrong Dirtbag?

Like you have any source that he wasn't. The KKK of course has an open website that shows it's annual membership since 1867 after the Democrats started it to ensure amongst many things, that Blacks/Free Slaves AND Native Americans were NEVER allowed to own a gun.

I aint retracting shet. Byrd was a closet Klansmen and prejudice towards blacks till the day he died.


dirtbag

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:15pm PT
It's not my job to disprove you.

Nor is it your "job" to back up a claim.

But when you enter this discussion, and can't back up what you say, we are left to conclude. you are making this up.

So, you are making up a fact.

The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:23pm PT
Amazing all this hype about "School Shootings" etc.


They have been in existence since back in 1850 when records began.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

And the worst School Attack in the US History, did not have one gun utilized in it.

The Bath School disaster was a series of violent attacks perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927, in Bath Township, Michigan, that killed 38 elementary school children and six adults and injured at least 58 other people.[Note 1] Kehoe killed his wife and firebombed his farm, then detonated a major explosion in the Bath Consolidated School, before committing suicide by detonating a final explosion in his truck. It is the deadliest mass murder to take place at a school in United States history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

So, just goes to prove that if anyone LOON wants to attack a school, they do NOT need a gun.

Same goes for any Gov't building.. The Oklahoma City Bombing. Not one gun used. Just a couple tons of Bull shet and ammonia etc.
John M

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:24pm PT
I would like to hear from JohnE

on one of the now deleted threads he claimed libs are for controlling others… It is a very divisive statement, as though repubs don't want to control what others do.

I would like him to explain himself.

For example.. does this mean that repubs aren't for making murder illegal. or abortion, or drugs, or unsafe buildings.. or unsafe food practices. Is it okay for the nuclear industry to dump waste next to your house? should nudity be legal since thats about controlling others?

if you make a broad generalization about that then you better be prepared to back it up or apologize.

…..

Edit: bombs aren't that easy to build Chief, or more of them would happen.
Norton

Social climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:25pm PT
Just got online to this forum

and what do I see but Dirtbag lying, making stuff up

and then refusing to admit that he is wrong, only a child would do that

what am I missing here?

dirtbag

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:38pm PT
That about sums it up, Norton.
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:48pm PT
Edit: bombs aren't that easy to build Chief, or more of them would happen.


Really...

Tell that to the people of Boston, Oklahoma City, Mumbai, and Stockholm etc.


Again, the WORST School Attack in US history was in 1927 that killed 38 elementary school children and six adults and injured at least 58 other people and not one gun was used. 100% Explosives. Anyone can by a 150 lb cylinder of O2. Four of those going off at the same time will indeed do some major destruction.

Take the ability to get a gun away. Good.

But that will not prevent a whacked out individual/s from carrying out their desires to instill chaos and horror. Fact!

Chinese authorities say two WOMEN were part of knife-wielding terror gang which left at least 33 dead and 143 wounded after attacking a train station in China.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html#ixzz3o13eysWA



John M

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 02:59pm PT
But that will not prevent a whacked out individual/s from carrying out their desires to instill chaos and horror. Fact!


it will slow them down Chief.. its not all or nothing..
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 03:03pm PT
it will slow them down Chief..

How much slower can you get. Apparently this asswipe in OR had been planning this event for a several months.

As with the Colorado shooting and Sandy Hook.
John M

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 03:05pm PT
not the kind of slowing I'm talking about Chief.. not that many people are capable of building bombs. The kids in Columbine tried to use bombs. They didn't work. The guns did.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Oct 8, 2015 - 03:12pm PT
I would like to hear from JohnE

on one of the now deleted threads he claimed libs are for controlling others… It is a very divisive statement, as though repubs don't want to control what others do.

I would like him to explain himself.

John, as I explained in the deleted thread, the statement I made was immediately followed by this:

;>)

That wink meant I was kidding. Well, OK, it could be openly and notoriously trolling, too.

Edit: I'm mixing this up with another comment on a different thread. Sorry, John. Of course Republicans think the government should try to control anti-social behavior. My comment on Democrats (as evidenced by the current California Legislature) really meant that Democrats desire to control voluntary behavior more than Republicans do. I think, though, this discussion belongs on a different thread.

John
The Chief

climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
Oct 8, 2015 - 03:18pm PT
The kids in Columbine tried to use bombs.

They DIDN'T try!

They had em but just did not get around to detonating them.. They were shot dead before they could get to most of them that they had placed throughout the school.

Also, their car bomb went off at 11PM vice 11AM when they thought that they set it for.

ONLY ONE propane bomb failed. The other one went off prematurely and took out the cafeteria windows etc.

Using instructions found on the Internet, Harris and Klebold constructed a total of 99 improvised explosive devices of various designs and sizes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

John M

climber
Oct 8, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
Also, their car bomb went off at 11PM vice 11AM when they thought that they set it for.

it didn't explode. It burned and was easily put out… which is my point. Bombs are harder to build and to make them actually work. Guns are easy to buy and use. Easier access means more people can do it. Timing is only part of the equation of a bomb.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 8, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
Bombs are harder to build and to make them actually work.

They are really easy to build and make work.

Keeping them from working until they are supposed to is the hard part.

Ask your prince Barry's domestic terrorist friend Bill Ayers about that one.

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