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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Open Carry On......
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philo
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Laurel Harper is a nurse who was very open about her love for guns. Former patient Shelley Steele said that Harper told her that “she had multiple guns and believed wholeheartedly in the Second Amendment and wanted to get all the guns she could before someone outlawed them.” Steele also revealed that Harper was very aware of her son’s mental problems, but often took him shooting anyway. “She told my husband she just purchased some new guns a few weeks ago and took him shooting. I thought the whole situation was very strange. If you know your son has mental health issues, do you encourage a fascination with guns?”
The Oregon shooter had four weapons on him, all legally purchased, when he walked into Umpqua Community College and brutally massacred nine people before killing himself. There were ten more weapons recovered from his apartment. The reaction from the right has been the same as it always has been- distracting false narratives about “gun free zones” (which the college was not), blaming mental illness, and obstinately resisting all attempts to engage in a rational discussion about the epidemic of shootings that kill thousands of our citizens every year. The rise of gun sales after these tragedies just goes to show how dysfunctional our nation is and how giant a battle we have yet to fight if we have any hope of saving our citizens from themselves.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
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apogee wrote: It's Gone
It's back
Like the plague.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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The Oregon shooter had four weapons on him, all legally purchased, when he walked into Umpqua Community College and brutally massacred nine people before killing himself. There were ten more weapons recovered from his apartment. The reaction from the right has been the same as it always has been- distracting false narratives about “gun free zones” (which the college was not), blaming mental illness, and obstinately resisting all attempts to engage in a rational discussion about the epidemic of shootings that kill thousands of our citizens every year. The rise of gun sales after these tragedies just goes to show how dysfunctional our nation is and how giant a battle we have yet to fight if we have any hope of saving our citizens from themselves.
Oh my.............. Fkn VT GUN NUTS!
Vermont has very few gun control laws, and has among the most permissive laws in the nation regarding the purchase and open or concealed carry of firearms. The state's rural character, along with its strong hunting and outdoor sports traditions, have contributed to the state's permissive gun policies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Vermont
And that's Bernie Sanders Home State.... Philco.
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philo
climber
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Wing nut its regarding events in Oregon not Vermont.
And your the pissant who keeps whining about all the crime committed with illegal guns.
Well these mass shootings seem to be perpetrated by legal weapons.
Hmmmmm
But your are real into killin n murderin so as long as somebody dies you're happy as a clam.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
apogee wrote: It's Gone
It's back... Like the plague.
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philo
climber
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Hey look it's AmeriKKKunt the stalkerf*#k thinking he's accomplishing something.
What a frightened limp dick.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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philo
climber
Oct 4, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
Hey look it's AmeriKKKunt the stalkerf*#k thinking he's accomplishing something.
What a frightened limp dick.
You shouldn't be talking about LOcker that way, Phlico... Will post his over 2500 "stalkerf*#k" Photos later.
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philo
climber
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It's not about blaming the gun it's about holding the gun culture accountable.
Why are you so desperate to promote and defend the indefensible?
My guess is that in a sane system you wouldn't be able to keep your pathetic bullet dispensing dildos because you'd be deemed mentally and emotionally incompetent.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Why are you so desperate to promote and defend the ...
Precisely the exact same reason YOU, Phlico are willing to defend Roe vs. Wade.
Yet, the 2nd Amend is one of our founding Fundamental Freedoms. That's Why!
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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After hitting the reject button you should have left well enough alone Bob Da. With all this fuming back and forth and sitting on your ass typing away you're likely to have a heart attack thence permanent self deletion. Take care amigo.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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You guys are like a bunch of addicts
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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if we have any hope of saving our citizens from themselves
See, this is HOW far the liberal mindset has fallen from our founding principles.
Our founders, and MOST Americans, do not believe that the citizens need to be saved FROM THEMSELVES. We don't need "saving." The VAST majority of us are quite able and HAPPY to fend for ourselves, work for ourselves, succeed for ourselves, and generally just be left the HELL alone!
Liberals INSIST on dumbing society down to the lowest common denominator, and they actually use TSA useless stupidity as COMPARISONS of how things "should" be: "One shoe bomber, so now we all have to take off our shoes at TSA check-ins...," as though that's GOOD and RIGHT, when in FACT it's useless and stupid.
You want to ENSURE that kids are safe?
Then PROTECT them, and that means ARMING people nearby them.
We KNOW that principle works when it comes to protecting our elected goofballs, celebrities (including that hypocritical piece of snake droppings, Jim Carrey, who surrounds himSELF with armed bodyguards), etc. It WORKS when it is consistently employed, so let's employ that same principle with our kids and then quit complaining about a non-existent "gun culture" that has NOTHING to do with the real problem.
But, noooo... the libs would much rather wring their hands, complain about the right "not doing anything," and keep relentlessly trying to dumb us all down, destroy our most basic freedoms, and firmly affix ALL of us to the bottomless government teat!
PROTECT the kids in the ONE way you actually CAN right now. Don't wait for pipe dreams and legislation that will never come and will have no effect. If you won't do that, then shut up, because you actually DON'T care to protect them if you WON'T.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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I have no idea what thread this thread is in reference to.
Because I typically avoid non-climbing related threads, I'm guessing it was one of those.
And that seems OK (not knowing).
It's not that I don't care about politics and current events. Far from it. But beating my head against a wall doesn't seem all that sensible of a way to spend my few remaining years.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Locker,
Plano is the same population as San Bernardino.
3 murders in Plano in 2013. ( up from 1 the year before )
42 in San Bernardino. ( down from 47 the year before )
Besides smarter gun laws, what's Plano doing that San Bernardino isn't?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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No point.
Someone will just start a Son Of Umpqua thread to replace it.
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philo
climber
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And yet some would rather not discuss it because it often leads to yelling.
Well change can be noisy.
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