John Bachar Fundraiser Prize Drawing Tomorrow: October 21


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Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2006 - 10:09pm PT
Hi gang,

I was in the Red last Wednesday when I found out that Tim had received money from the fund to offset his own medical expenses. Of course, I immediately called Bachar and asked him what was up. John told me that he was glad to be able to give Tim money from the fund ($2,500) that he didn't think he'd need. It was very clear to me that John willingly offered it to help out another climber in need and he was psyched to do it. That it was Tim, who organized of the raffle, that needed the funds can only be considered the closing of a Karmic cricle. I apologise to everyone out there that the sequence of passing these funds to Tim didn't conform to GAAP standards but John, as most climbers would, responded from the gut rather than from an accountant's or lawyer's POV. Thanks John.

Knowing that a sh*tstorm of biblical porportions (sorry Ron) was about to hit, I asked Tim to forward all the remaining funds in the account to John. He did so that afternoon (10/18) and emailed me a scan of the cashier's check.

He held out $226 to cover outgoing shipping expenses for all of the prizes.

I drew the prize numbers. I was on the phone with Tim when I did it and I used the random number generator at Tim had already withdrawn his numbers and I withdrew mine as well. Hell, I don't need any more gear, eh?

It's too bad that all this crap about Tim, true or not, has surfaced to cloud the effort that he and the climbing community has gone to to help JB. It simply wouldn't have happened--or even been imagined--without Tim's effort. It's been an astonishing outpouring of support for one of ours (a full-on hero at that) and I have a hard time imagining it occurring in any other world.

I am working with Phil at the American Alpine Club, Dave Talsky of Mammoth Mountaineering, and John to set up the official Steve Karafa Fund at the AAC. In the meantime, John has control of the funds and he can tap in to them as he sees fit because, despite having medical insurance, I know that he will have tons of medical expenses that are uncovered. After all, insurance compaines make their vig by collecting premiums and denying claims. I had great medical insurance when I had my accident in Alaska ([url][/url] yet I ended up owing $14,000 for PT. John won't know what all his expenses are for at least another 6 months. That's just the way to body heals and insurance companys deal.

Raoul, I'm sorry you're so bitter and I'm sorry for whatever it was that caused it. A sure panacea would be for you to organize your own fund raiser for some good cause that you identify with. Put your heart and soul into it. You'll be amazed at its curative powers.

dr_feelgood, PM me your address and I'll write you a check for $50 if it will help you heal.

For those of you complaining about the distribution of prizes, stop whining, enjoy the feeling of having given to a great cause and hope that the community gathers 'round when you need the help. If that doesn't work, post on this forum that you want your money back and why, and I'll cut you a personal check. Even though John has offered the same, there is no way that I'm going to ask him to return the money that has been donated to him. He may need it.

Here's the great thing. Between the different fundraisers that went down: Mammoth Mountaineering, Phil Bard, Karl Baba, Black Diamond's and Neptune's slide shows, etc, we raised around $30,000 to help John and to launch the Steve Karafa Fund. With some luck, John won't need too much of that money and we can seed the SK Fund with enough to significantly help other climbers when they are in need. Hell, we've already started.


PS: I'm going to cross post this. I hated writing this and I can't do it again.

Oct 25, 2006 - 10:22pm PT
Thanks Mal for clearing this up. Please funnel some of the funds to Todd's family if you can.

Thanks for your hard work,

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2006 - 10:26pm PT
Mimi, they're not my funds to funnel. I've written them a check because it's a separate deal. If JB wants to send some of the funds up there, I'll stand behind him all the way.

Oct 25, 2006 - 10:41pm PT
Gotcha. I misread and thought you were involved with fund management. I'm confident JB will send money to Todd's family, so all is well under the current and recent events.


Oct 25, 2006 - 10:43pm PT
Quite the relief to hear it all Malcom. I'm sure I speak for everyone in saying that was an exellent post, and your work and efforts were and are appreciated by all of us.

Oct 25, 2006 - 10:48pm PT
Hey Mal, thanks for posting that, hopefully it will help the nay-sayers move on to the next conspiracy.

I've kept quiet on this because I am close to JB, but I will say that it is a shame that some people choose to attempt to tarnish a good will, kind hearted effort the way they have, to the point of talking about "questionable circumstances", SPECIALLY when they didn't even contribute to the fund. SHAME.

Thanks again Mal, for all you've done, and thank you to all of you who've managed to keep your contributions positive.


Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
Oct 26, 2006 - 12:28am PT
What is going on here? I am confused... How did this happen?

Let me state that if you need someone to hang then look at me.
I was the one who told the police what happened. The police report is based on my testimony. I was the one who held Steve as he died, no one else was there. Since I am also the one that told John what happened for he can't remember, "he had been knocked out..." The story about the accident comes from me. This includes all the repeats of the news about Steve's death over and over again because John couldn't remember five minutes after the telling. Note, the version is all mine since there are no other witnesses. This fact had the added benefit of watching John go through the shock of losing his best friend over and over again until his memory stabilized.
Don't forget that I am also the one that people called to ask if they should do a fund raiser. I was the one that gave them the go ahead. Also please note that at the time no one had an idea if John had insurance since he was too out of it to tell us.
I was also the one who thought that if we had any money left over after paying off the medical expenses that we shouldn't casually pocket the remaining funds. I thought that we should donate it to Steve's memorial fund.
Hang me for reaching out to Tim after hearing about his illness and offering help in Steve's name.
This is my fault. This is my problem.
Don't attack the man with the broken neck. Don't attack the one facing a stroke.
Since I am perfectly healthy and I don't need positive thoughts to get better... Since I am not too busy facing my health issues unlike the others who will not be emailing you because they are dealing with worse things , please pick on me.

If you think I am upset, you are right.
Yours truly,

Trad climber
Someplace F*#ked!
Oct 26, 2006 - 12:40am PT
Anastasia sweetie, don't listen to any of these pricks. I know you're frustrated, but you know as well as any of us that you've done nothing to be blamed for. Unfortunately this is the kind of ugliness that a few anonymous pricks perpetrate to fell better about themselves.

I'm sorry you've got to deal with this. Take comfort in those who do care, and ignore the rest of the bullsh#t.


Oct 26, 2006 - 12:52am PT

Just remember you are above all this, you did everything in your power with the best interests of all the others in need.

Rest assured that you did the right thing.


Social climber
No Ut
Oct 26, 2006 - 01:02am PT
I feel a number of people should apologize to Anastasia, and to Malcolm and to Tim. That probably won't happen, but that's just the nature of some people...
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