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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 4, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
Love it Cragman!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Goldenville west of Lurkerville
Sep 4, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
For sure...Some of the roughest play at a Raiders game is in the stands...
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Sep 5, 2015 - 04:44pm PT

Who's Tom Brady?
Sula

Trad climber
Pennsylvania
Sep 5, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
The poll of nfl fans I saw said:
54% think Brady cheated
63% support 4 game suspension
So 9% of poll responders think he didn't cheat but still should be suspended?
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Sep 6, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
Right Sula - I said 1 in 10, but 9% is the more precise way to say it :-)

I think my favorite sport to watch is my daughter playing football (soccer to you Palin admirers who speak American :-), but to each his own!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 6, 2015 - 07:46pm PT
The judge ruled narrowly on process violations of the collective bargain agreement and did not weigh Brady's guilt or innocence relative to the charges.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 6, 2015 - 08:48pm PT
^^^^^Yeah, he walked, just like OJ.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Sep 6, 2015 - 10:08pm PT
He deflated the balls by slashing their throats?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 7, 2015 - 09:19am PT
it you want more precise... 1 in 11 is more like 9%

as for the vacating of the arbitration finding against Brady, it is an interesting lesson in labor law... the judge found that the arbitrator (Goodell) did not conduct the arbitration fairly (which is what they are supposed to do) for both sides, the NFL and the player(s). The whole issue of the NFLPA is that the commissioner, hired by the owners, cannot be a neutral arbitrator. The owners seem to be slowly waking up to the notion... but it is uncertain how many more losses of high profile federal court cases it will take for them to act.

this is more interesting a story concerning labor law than the Ideal Gas Law...

as I pointed out previously, the Ideal Gas Law makes the NFL's rule on inflation unenforceable, at least in practice. The Ideal Gas Law has been around since 1834...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law

basically, it relates a gas' pressure, volume and temperature, the ratio of the product of pressure and volume to the temperature of the gas is constant:

PV/T = constant

so if you fix P and V in the NFL rule, keep it "constant" then you have to fix the temperature too... which is not done in most stadiums.

what advantage is gained isn't at all clear... and especially in the particular game that is being contested.



My only personal experience with this sort of "cheating" comes from a yacht race from Marblehead to St. George... a very long race, 776 miles. After almost a week of racing we are greeted with the scent of land as we approach Bermuda, it is early morning and the island's cloud cover is visible even as the island is beyond the horizon. We have beaten the arrival of the Bermuda High, which has visited itself on much of our fleet, leaving them bobbing in its doldrums behind us. But two of our class competitors are visible ahead of us.

We have the course rules out and notice that the competitors have "cut a corner," we are required to take a particular buoy on the starboard (probably less than a mile difference), they have that buoy very much to their port. Our capitan, the owner, instructs the helmsman to follow, but the crew (that's us) raise an objection to "breaking the rules." *

Capitan is a solid American businessman, competitive to the bone, and is caught in a real dilemma, the competition is in sight and perhaps beatable, but not if we take the longer route to the finish line. Tense moments pass, Capitan clearly wants the win. Suddenly he disappears through the cabin way to below decks.

We hear him talking to the race committee on the radio, he is reporting the rules violation of our competitors! We do the "right thing" and they get penalized (time added to their passage) which is enough to have us place 3rd in our division.

So the righteous -



while the judge could not rule on the Pash/Wells Report conclusions, he did ask the league how the alleged rule violation effected the game, pointing out that Brady and the Patriots performed better in the second half with league inflated balls, then in the first half with the alleged under inflated balls. There was no answer from the league, they were under no requirement to defend the report's conclusion, but the question from the judge indicates his skepticism of all the agony over "competitive advantage."

But it is predictable, if not admirable, that the Colts' owners would cry foul and allege a rule violation in order to gain an advantage penalizing their competition where they failed to do so on the field of play.

Perhaps this is the American way -



And it is hard to fathom that this same team goes on to victory in the Superbowl, the best rated offense against the best rated defense, if they are so dependent on "cheating". How to explain the remarkable 4th quarter performance of the accused offense? Conspiracy theorists are invited to provide their take on the event.

Finally, as seems to be so often the case, it is the performance of the many "secondary" players who seem to be critical in such victories, and make the outcomes so random (I fully expected the Pats to loose in some variation of those painful ways they seemed to in the recent past).



* I don't know why this particular rule, except the coral reefs around Bermuda seem to have a lot of spectacular "spikes," all the better to breach a boats hull, which is how the British flotilla that arrived to colonize the islands in 1607 escaped catastrophe in the storm that arrived coincidently, the reef speared fleet anchoring the ships and allowing them to offload their crew and passengers in small boats.

rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Sep 7, 2015 - 10:26am PT
Thanks Ed! Interesting post. We think that we operate on these strict rules of logic and ethics but when push comes to shove we do whatever works best for us, whether that's cheating, or dissaproving of cheaters, or being a (girly :-) tattletale, or disapproving of (girly :-) tattletales, or whatever suits our agenda at the moment.

Oh yea I see how 1 out of 11 is closer to 9% than 1 out of 10. I guess I was trying to make it easier for humans to understand the number by rounding to a multiple of 10, but instead I just made it less understandable. :-) Humans we make these little errors of judgment or understanding in service to a bigger picture value or belief.

Is "1 out of 11" a more precise way of representing 9% than "1 out of 10", or is it just more accurate? Could we improve our precision even more by calling it "1 out of 33.6"? Big value to be had in our scientific/rational ways of thinking.

But as with most things in our world of ambiguities I guess it probably comes down to which way the judge (I, for each of us) rules. :-)
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Sep 7, 2015 - 12:31pm PT
The judge ruled on the arbitration process but made a lot of comments that gave insight into what he thought about the whole situation. For example: what direct evidence is there? None. The "independent" investigation wasn't. And Brady played better once the balls were inflated to 13 psi for the second half.

Last I looked Atlanta was in America and what you call football is the most popular form of football in that region. In Ireland football is Gaelic rules football in Australia its Aussie rules football. If I were to go to England and demand they call it association football and football is American football I'd rightly be laughed at.
zBrown

Ice climber
Apr 25, 2016 - 09:02am PT
Reinstated

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/04/25/tom-bradys-deflategate-suspension-reinstated-by-federal-court/
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 25, 2016 - 09:18am PT
how will this affect Bernie's campaign?
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 25, 2016 - 09:21am PT
Eff soccer floppers, ruins an otherwise admirable game. Womens soccer is actually better of watch IMO.

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EDIT: And I would like to speak with the referee in the Pats game. He handles that ball more than any other person on the field, including the ball boy. If he is not too stupid to recognize something amiss given the sheer volume of times he handles that ball, then we should check to see if he has a new RV parked in his driveway.
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