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The Chief
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Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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This...
It's an extraordinarily rare event. But the fact is, (in) 2012, there were 12,197,000 arrests in the United States, OK? And there were 410 uses of deadly force. Now that is, I think, three-thousands of a percent. So, it’s still an extraordinarily rare event." — Edward Flynn on Wednesday, August 20th, 2014 police chief in Milwaukee, Wis., since January 2008
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Jody,
From my PERSONAL experience with cops in the USA has been positive, but I am white, which, if you wanna believe it or not, is an uber-obvious problem in your country.
Got pulled over in south Idaho for speeding- cop super nice, gave me a warning and a 'Happy Easter'.
Never had problem asking cops directions etc, always nice.
The sarge took me on a tour of the downtown LA building once and gave me his card to ask further questions if I wanted (where C.H.I.P.S was filmed).
To say every cop is good and not corrupt would be naive., as in any job, but no doesn't need aggression turned upon them.
Ladders don't count for full effect.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Best comment on the thread award - "Straight outa Squampton"
Shows, at least, the value of being tall and having long arms. Persistence counts too.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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jody,
thanks for your service. I'll assume you were a 'good cop' that used force appropriate to the situation. Unfortunately, the law is written to protect pretty much all cops, all the time. So, as evidenced by the cell videos in the past few years, psycho cops are getting away with being power hungry, reactionary, and seem to actively work to escalate situations.
Why aren't the unions pushing for body cams to regain public trust?
I take back 'fvck the police', how about fvck the police unions, the DAs, and the laws that give cops a free pass to murder at will?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Congrats on your retirement Jody and thanks!
This thread is still a Troll minus, though.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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"There were 74 officers killed in 1995, according to the FBI."...
For the record...
that too...
was Obamas fault...
Good one Locker!
And the Drug/Gangbanger Busts....
Look at all those weapons. All good in the happy no holds barred world of the NRA and gun loving America. What the f*#k else do you expect them to use?
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Look at all those weapons. All good in the happy no holds barred world of the NRA and gun loving America. What the f*#k else do you expect them to use?
Bruce.... Nope.
All tracked back to being illegally smuggled in or sold through the Ilegal Gun Trade Black Market that prevails in this country. Most coming from, wait, here it is.....
Mexico and the Mexican Cartel. And some even from Holder and his DOJ.
(BTW: Over 80% of all illegal Auto and Large Bore Weps confiscated in the past ten years aren't manufactured or have any registered origin in the US.)
NOT the NRA nor any Law Abiding US Cit.
74 Cops killed in 1995
For 1995 through 2002 as well as 2010 and 2011, I used data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports.
Year Police involved Fatalities
1995 389
Of that, 214 were White.
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dirtbag
climber
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Why were people upset with Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crises when everyone knows it was Obamas fault???...
Excellent point. That, and declining pork belly prices in the 1840s are attributable to Obama's hatred of whites.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jody.
Your OP talked about people criticizing cops who kill unarmed people as promoting a new war on cops and anarchy. I say bunk.
Every life lost is a tragedy. but I'm asking you to show evidence that things are worse than before, say, 911. seems to be everybody's standard. Your rant seems unreasoned and unsupported by evidence. Things aren't worse. Anarchists have been around for over a century. Sacco and Vanzetti were anarchists. I can show you an attempt to clean out out a whole neighborhood of immigrants here in Portland in 1906, calling the whole population anarchists and claiming a plot to kill Roosevelt.
http://www.mcmenamins.com/blog/2015/5/22/225-A-Plot-to-Kill-a-President-
The anarchist claim was bunk then and bunk now. You aren't the first to use the anarchy claim to suppress people.
Every stat I see shows crime is down and violence of all kinds except domestic is WAY down from 20 years ago. Get a grip on reality.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Excellent POST Glegarand...
Pretty sums up the realities of the total disproportionate and way over inflated truths that seem to prevail in this country today as to Cops gunning for any suspected criminal, let alone a young black man.
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The Chief
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Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Every stat I see shows crime is down and violence of all kinds except domestic is WAY down from 20 years ago. Get a grip on reality.
And you Lorenzo go pull that telephone pole outta your eye. Your stats are totally mooted by the following reality.
It's an extraordinarily rare event. But the fact is, (in) 2012, there were 12,197,000 arrests in the United States, OK? And there were 410 uses of deadly force. Now that is, I think, three-thousands of a percent. So, it’s still an extraordinarily rare event." — Edward Flynn on Wednesday, August 20th, 2014 police chief in Milwaukee, Wis., since January 2008
Spot on... thanks for good solid and insightful post.
Every arrest involves hands on physical confrontation between Law Enforcement and Citizens. These interactions have always and will always go bad at some time to some degree. By all means strive to hold Law Enforcement accountable for their actions, but showing the same dozen videos of Poor Policing as a yardstick to Demonize an entire Profession that interacts millions of times a year in stressful situations with Citizens is simple sensationalism.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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All those arrests and by edward Flynn's evidence almost no violence against cops hardy supports a war on cops.
Maybe a three thousandth of a percent war....
The othe 99.97% of arrest have no violence
It's just bunk for politicians.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Nor do they support any of the current B-L-M and the Sharptons of America BS propaganda that there is a war on young black men by the nations LEO's who btw started this entire issue....Lorenzo.
Goes both ways.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Maybe, but that wasn't the OP's rant.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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And I am adding the Big Picture to this entire over blown and politically incited issue all originated on that terrible day last year in Ferguson, MO
There IS NO war on Young Black Men by LEO's in this nation. Which just may be igniting a possible war on LEO's by those that believed the BS perpetuated by those that say there is. i.e. B-L-M and the Al Sharpton's out there.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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No but they sure are giving them protection TODAY as they call for the death of those men and women in uniform doing so... Gerg.
The photo does not show the 20-30 St. Paul PD's directly in front of the B-L-M group chanting for those LEO's demise shown here...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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The photo also doesn't show any violence against those 30 police.
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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I agree they should not be chanting such obvious chants that bring violence possibly...Chief.
And they should be protecting them TODAY when they decided casually not too only 45 years ago.
peace
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