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zBrown

Ice climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:06pm PT
Smith & Powell killed a cop in 1963, one got away (Onion Field)
Cecena killed a copy in San Diego 1978
Miles killed a cop in 2015

Sheriff(s) killed Chaney, Goodwin, Schwerner in 1964 in Mississippi.

Anything new here?

Cops are far from monolithicaly good.
-Serpico

Think about it before you go off the handle, J.



donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:18pm PT
Idiots....paint with a broad brush, disparage everyone who has a different point of view and are hopelessly inept in dealing with nuanced arguments.
ruppell

climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:19pm PT
Mister E

So I black rapper can say it and it's cool but a bunch of white folks say it and it's not? Pretty F'd up logic there. The point was the phrase has been around for a very long time. Now some other white guy has a problem with it. I don't get it.
MisterE

Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
I am a happy idiot! :^)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
Jody, my condolences. I rail against stoopid ticketing but I've got all officers' backs at heart.
The StuporTopo Robespierre Chowder and Marching Society is only forgiving of rioters and
and related nihilists.
ruppell

climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
I'm an American Idiot. Well not really but I still like the song. It fits this thread more than any other I can think of right now. lol



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Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
from that noted left-wing-commi-cop-hating news site NBC

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE KILLED BY POLICE?


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/one-year-after-ferguson-why-nobody-knows-how-many-people-n405376

Not James Comey, the director of the FBI, which admits that its own statistics are incomplete.

"It's ridiculous that I can't tell you how many people were shot by the police last week, last month, last year," Comey said in February.

For a really disgusting example: This link to a youtube video of Albuqueque cops killing a mentally ill camper--

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tpAZObNZfI]


Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
Reilly offers condolences for the death of Jody's brain...

... that's cute.
zBrown

Ice climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
Are we keeping like things together here in this illuminating dialog.

Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Sep 1, 2015 - 07:43pm PT
i feel like i'm standing back
and watching a conversation between
my wife and i.

mr: "that's not what i meant!"
mrs: "but that's what you said."

mr: "your cognitive skills suck!"
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Sep 1, 2015 - 08:29pm PT
Eat a turd you shart stain. You're a stupid little maggot.

Obama hates cops too and wants riots, right Fukwit? And the protesters are just bad black people right, you racist piece of hate. Evil. Little. Shart.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Sep 1, 2015 - 08:54pm PT

Burn the place down
herm

Trad climber
Bishop
Sep 1, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
Nobody read jody's post!
ruppell

climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
Oh what the hell. This ones for you Jody.



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thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
JODY! Holy Smokes I can't believe you gotta meet Joe McCarthy! Tell him to stop pluggin' that ol' liver - we need some more witch hunts!
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:04pm PT
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/us/georgia-wrong-house-shooting/



People have problems with the police? Weird
10b4me

Social climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:09pm PT

The next POTUS agreeing with me during a discussion I had with him a couple of months ago.


You are delusional, Jody.
couchmaster

climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:16pm PT

Jody, from this "idiot" I feel for you. I especially feel for honest and good folks that are cops and being targets. That's not satire or BS. I think that we (as a country) have some big F**ing issues we need to deal with. Education is still # one and we are failing in it. You're seeing that Chicken coming home to roost now. I can't claim any exclusion and the country is failing in most places. For instance, my kids knew all about Martin Luther King from the local public school by 3rd grade and how he had been sh#t on and his struggles, but knew nothing and had not even heard of either Thomas Jefferson or George Washington or their goals and ideals at that time. True story, and one I quickly corrected in my house. The rest of the houses, who can say.

I'm the kind of guy that steps up as a temporary sheepdog when needed. Every damned time. But I don't know what do do. The Rev. Farrakkahn is calling for 10,000 "warriors" to confront the oppressors (you mostly but me too cause I have white skin) that have oppressed them for 400 years this coming Oct during the million man march in DC. Essentially its close to open season on you and your profession and it's gonna be black militants heading your way for what they perceive as revenge. Some of them are picking up the sword now. Their goal is for them to obtain freedom. However, these as#@&%es repeatedly call "FIRE" in the crowded theater and nobody does nothing. That hate speech is protected by the authorities, and it is resonating with their audiences.

A bit about me. My wife and I moved into the inner city as young (poor) mostly white people, and we are still here over 30 years later. However in my city, we as a city made investments here to make the sh#t parts better, but all that resulted in that was that the dirt poor trouble (some of color some not) moved out someplace else and displaced the trash and intelligent blacks who cashed in with rich white folks. Seriously, we have only one black family in this area now. Some of my new neighbors now make obscene amounts of scratch. The old neighbors and the new neighbors would not recognize each other.

For myself, I love not going out in the morning and finding a fired .45 bullet (with striations) sitting in near prefect condition right on my deck and wonder where the f*#k that came from and how the f*#k I can keep the next one from whacking my kids. I love not having to worry that a picnic at the park a half block away will totally f*#k up my day when some total shithead pulls a gun and kills some other black guy with way too many bullets (who the f*#k teaches these f*#kwads to empty a f*#king full magazine of 20 rounds at a single person) and the one bullet hit right in the middle of picnickers. (years back, no arrest was ever made). I love that my house price has shot up and the equity is pretty fat. I love having the neighbors over for drinks now and they tell me what Geo Bush told them at their last dinner party. I don't even know what to say.

I volunteered to help tutor one on one -teach reading, to inner city black kids for a while to try and do some good. Some of them can't read for sh#t. It was painful. All they want to do is get to recess and play basketball. And they can do that with a skill that is shocking but awe inspiring. I'm talking 2nd and 3rd graders playing and making NBA like moves. But feeling pain and strain on reading even simple books. I didn't have the vig to continue. They were not happy (they just wanted to play ball), I was not happy (I saw no results and wanted to go climb, be with family and get too my new business). The black community is separated between good people and total shitheads and they all can relate with each other cause of outside enemies (us).

My little boy was in a class with no white kids. All black except for one little Mexican girl who didn't last the full time. I met all of the other parents and learned that they ALL were better people than me. Real good folks. They all wanted for their kids what I wanted for mine, what you wanted for yours, and they worked harder than me to get it and I worked f*#king hard at it. They were all excellent people, great citizens. They all drove nicer cars than me at the time. But when they drove home in that BMW, they'd get pulled over for "not putting on your blinker may I see your license and registration" and the bile would rise up in their throats and the overwhelming fear of what the police traditionally meant and could and did do to people just like them. That is, they felt like the traditional "uppity niggers" of old. About to be hung from a tree as a attitude adjustment and to keep the rest of them down kind of fear. The fear would creep up into their bowels and shake them to their very core. They knew that they had put their f*#king blinker on and they also knew that the cop was lying about that and the only thing that they thought at that point was 2 things. Dear lord please don't let this honky uniform lying piece of sh#t mother f*#ker kill me cause I have kids to raise. And 2nd) I can't believe this sh#t is still going on in this day and age. Rage would follow. I'm talking good people here Jody. Not shitheads, real good folks. I never associated with shitheads except in conflict (and confess to even saving my lily white ass once by pretending to be a cop). I'm saying that these were hard working folks. Honest. Salt of the earth. ...Dark skin is all that separated them from you and me. They were pissed that they were working their asses off to get ahead, and they can still get shook up and fear for their very life and liberty by a uniform pulling them over. Just because they were black. An that feeling that your brothers instilled, anger, fear, wanting both acceptance but knowing that it is somehow out of reach.

Most cops, however, don't understand that anyone would even have that kind of visceral fear. It's never happened to them for the most part. Sure it's not as bad as it use to be, but here's a related thing. For whatever reason, blacks use to be afraid of dogs like nobodys business. I never understood it and have to my shame often found amusement at it, but if you search history, you can see why that might have carried over from the crap the machine sh#t on them with. It should surprise no one that a kid that has never had the cops sic a dog on him is afraid of them just because of the oral history they have passed down through their parents. I love dogs and they don't scare me at all. So it's hard to walk a mile in another shoes as no one has sic'ed a dog on me and if I tried to resist the dog, shot or arrested me or one of my loved ones.

Now this piece of crap Farrakhan steps up with this bullsh#t. Like a barrel of apples - most of the apples are good, but some are bad to the point of total sh#t. Farrakan is fired up by history and oppression. So the sh#t he says seems bad, real bad, but he has issues based on black/white history. In that history and of his beliefs, to this day, white has sh#t on blacks in a major way. Blacks have NOT sh#t on whites. Til now. What do you want us to do? What will you do?

He says: "Death is sweeter than continued life under tyranny" he says. Do you not agree with that statement? Then this: "Retaliation is PRESCRIBED!!! in the matter of the slaves........ THEN WE MUST RISE UP AND KILL THOSE WHO KILL US STOP THEM AND KILL THEM AND LET THEM FEEL THE PAIN OF DEATH THAT WE HAVE FEELED."


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Hard to relate man. I'm white and life is flicking good. Damned good. I posted something along these lines on the thread chief started then deleted. Here's the bottom line. How can we help you Jody? Where do we as a country or as individuals to keep this from going to sh#t? I suspect it will get worse before it gets better. Or are you just venting?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:23pm PT
The recent overwhelming proliferation of cell phone video capabilities combined with the twitter and youtube as instant mass distribution platforms has suddenly thrown a bright light on police misconduct that has been going on forever and it isn't pretty. That there is an angry and sometimes misguided backlash shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. And it's all further exacerbated by the right's increasingly shrill anti-government rhetoric and events like the BLM standoff in Nevada.

Last week this guy [without a firearm] was shot dead [from a distance] a moment later with his hands up and the district attorney's response? "It was unclear what the suspect's intent was in raising his hands..."


Seriously? The 'intent' of someone putting their hands up when confronted by police is "unclear"? And you wonder why there's a backlash...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Sep 1, 2015 - 09:25pm PT
omg...I just figured out what Jody was trying to say....


"Thanks Obama..."

If I were the police I'd work pretty hard on getting rid of the bad apples if they want to survive...especially if they want respect and trust. I have never understood how a truly good cop can stomach a bad one let alone protect it... I rarely get pissed off at the other team..but my own teams f*#kups always pissed me off.

No more boys club rules.

There are many types of criminals in the world but the ones I fear most are the ones given authority by the people. A policeman using his authority in perpetration of crime is much worse than other criminals doing the same thing.

Some cops are amazing wonderful people.. some are just average joes getting their paycheck not very concerned about right and wrong or just not that bright...some are criminals and a danger to society. The latter two types scare the sh#t out of me.

I do respect all cops..because they are all potentially a serious danger to me and my life. I am polite and never argue with them. It's a self preservation thing. Mostly I do everything in my power to avoid them.

I also know many of them are wonderful people who do their job with honor...but I have no interest in having to find out what type of cop I might deal with on any given day..

I hope they change their culture and become trusted again.
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