Obama wants to make Denali the official name

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couchmaster

climber
Sep 1, 2015 - 08:40am PT

^^^ to power those bloated Denali that GM makes. Irony everywhere. I'd suggest that GM rename the bloatmobiles McKinley's, but as our fattest President was Taft, perhaps they can be persuaded to go with that for those things instead.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 1, 2015 - 08:50am PT
The drilling policy has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with positioning for arctic resources relative to Russia. Unfortunate, but it's the latest extension of the cold war and exacerbated by global warming. It's no different than the move to speed up ice breaker production and build more of them (way behind on that one compared to the Russians).
Phred

Mountain climber
Anchorage
Sep 1, 2015 - 11:42am PT
The original post stated that the name change would require Congressional approval. This is not the case. Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell signed Secretarial Order No. 3337 specifically because Congress has failed to act on the issue despite legislation being filed 40 years ago. The name was officially changed on August 28, 2015. Congress does retain the right to re-name the peak, as it does with any geographical feature in the U.S.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 1, 2015 - 11:44am PT
The Ohio delegation filed and refiled bills for forty years without any expectation they would ever come to a vote. They just needed to languish in committee forever in a clear abuse of what was a deference to the Congress made out of respect. The president simply called them on their clear gaming of the system.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Sep 1, 2015 - 12:49pm PT
Back in the late 60s when I was rangering at Denali park (then called Mt. McKinley N.P.) we were notified by the Washington office that Denali's north peak was slated to be officially named Churchill Peak. We were a bit upset about that, but that's the last we ever heard of it. It would be interesting to learn the history of that proposal and why it was apparently abandoned.

Good for Obama. Follows the common usage now.
cintune

climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Sep 1, 2015 - 11:14pm PT
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Sep 2, 2015 - 04:36am PT
Am I alone in finding Obama's trip to AK to make a statement about climate change ironic

It's okay.

It's Obama.

He gets a pass.

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Damn, it's beautiful.

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Sep 2, 2015 - 04:46am PT
I am very happy that the mountain's name will be changed to Mount Denali.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 2, 2015 - 04:48am PT
Am I alone in finding Obama's trip to AK to make a statement about climate change ironic

He also exhales CO2 despite supporting the Clean Air Act and pisses and shits despite supporting the Clean Water Act. Oh the humanity!!! I'd say you need to adjust your irony sensor.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Sep 2, 2015 - 09:12am PT
And if we do nothing, Alaskan temperatures are projected to rise between six and twelve degrees by the end of the century.

He sounds so sciency.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 2, 2015 - 09:50am PT
Oh, the irony! Here's the irony - we're constantly told we gotta buy Priuses, insulate more,
turn down our thermostats, car pool with the azzhole in the next cubicle, etc. Oh, and here in
the People's Republic of Bureaucrastan we have to pay almost twice as much for our gas,
cause we're special. So why didn't Obama set a good example and use the power of the media,
you know - like a fake moon landing, or even a podcast, instead of burning at least
640 TONS of fuel? BTW, for you white people, that's 213,300 gallons.

GET A PRIUS, BRA!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 2, 2015 - 12:20pm PT
President's job is to represent and be the public face of policy - there is no irony in actually going to Alaska where the problems of climate change are already impacting people and the economy. That you want him to drive a prius or hang glider to get there is a non-sequitur.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Sep 2, 2015 - 12:40pm PT
President's job is to represent and be the public face of policy - there is no irony in actually going to Alaska where the problems of climate change are already impacting people and the economy.

How is climate change are already impacting Alaskans and the economy?

I think commercial fisheries had a record production in 2013.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 2, 2015 - 12:47pm PT
You should be driving a Renault

You so funny! But I have some pride left.
dirtbag

climber
Sep 2, 2015 - 01:05pm PT
Huh. I thought he was going to name it Mt. Mohammed.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Sep 2, 2015 - 01:13pm PT
President's job is to represent and be the public face of policy - there is no irony in actually going to Alaska where the problems of climate change are already impacting people and the economy. That you want him to drive a prius or hang glider to get there is a non-sequitur.

Exactly. Even more than that, he is the personification of the Executive Branch for all of us who consider ourselves members of the U.S. -- even those of us who never supported him. In that regard, an old college roommate of our younger daughter now lives in Alaska, and the President went out of his way to say hello to her and, specifically, to her toddler. My daughter's friend recorded it on Facebook, and my wife (who is way to my right politically) and I were quite thrilled to see it.

John
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 2, 2015 - 01:24pm PT
Well, he certainly represents Americans' profligate use of oil.
I can't wait to get my new Raptor! I'm gonna drive it to Alaska to see
my Inuit bros.
Phred

Mountain climber
Anchorage
Sep 2, 2015 - 04:01pm PT
Fossil Climber (is that Wayne M.?)

The proposal to name the North Peak as Churchill Peak was changed to name both the North and South Peak collectively as the Churchill Peaks. This was done because President Johnson didn't attend Winston Churchill's funeral and didn't want it to appear that he was disrespecting the man.

Have a Merry day!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 2, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
This is what the visit (and drilling) is really all about so expect to see Putin swimming in ice pools, killing Caribou and wrestling grizzly bears in response.

America and Russia locked in race to control the Arctic Circle
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 2, 2015 - 04:20pm PT
Healy, thanks for that link, now we know the real purpose of the trip:

"On Tuesday, the president spent the day with Bear Grylls, filming an episode of the British survival expert's programme “Running Wild” in which the pair hiked the melting Exit Glacier."

Boy, that makes a statement, about something.
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