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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 28, 2015 - 09:38am PT
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Perfect summary!
Off to the next thread.
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Captain...or Skully
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Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Aug 28, 2015 - 09:45am PT
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I'm sure there have been droughts in the last couple thousand years. They'll be there when we are dust.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Aug 28, 2015 - 10:24am PT
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Just the wussy ones living in sub prime real estate. Adios giants!
And the article doesn't mention that the previous 100 years have been abnormally wet. Interesting side note in the puzzle.
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The Chief
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Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 28, 2015 - 11:14am PT
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Vague article but does do it's job.... instilling more "Maybe" fear into the mass sheep.
+1 on the post regarding droughts in the past thousands of years.
On a side note, many do not know that Seki's require intense sustained heat upwards of 500degs F for the seed pods to open and subsequently germinate in the burnt residue/carbon'd zone that is a result of fire. Learned this from a local USFS Bio that me and the HARDCORPS juvi's worked for up in the southern end of SEKI just north of Homers Nose. I forget the name of the R- Grove there but we helped him collect seed pods and do other asst jobs for two weeks. It was a very cool learning experience about the SEKI's and what they can endure. This short term drought is nothing compared to what they endured back some 500-600 years ago. I remember that Bio telling us all about them times and even showed us the history in the Rings. Way cool.
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Captain...or Skully
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Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Aug 28, 2015 - 11:26am PT
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That's why they(nps) said they were moving infrastructure out of Giant Forest. ...so they could burn it for seedlings...did they get 'er done? I haven't been back in a while.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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Yeah, Chief, almost everyone now knows that about the seedlings, maybe even
those botanists! ;-)
My takeaway from the article was their admission that they don't well under-
stand the sequoias' hydraulics and their ability to withstand prolonged
drought, the length and severity of which is the question. It has already
proved to be too much for trees which have seen a few centuries and is clearly
stressing the sequoias. I am not so sanguine that this drought will not
prove to be greater than they can bear.
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The Chief
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Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 28, 2015 - 01:40pm PT
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Reilly...
One of the things that Bio reiterated to us was the immense water holding capability of them Seki's. If I recall correctly, he stated something to the fact that for every 5 foot in diameter & height, they hold upwards of 3-5 gallons of moisture. It all added up to an incredible reserve quantity. Them bigger boys (anything over 60') he said can go upwards of 10-15 years without a drop of precip. The tall and girthier the longer. He said that Sherman can go quarter century, maybe longer without a resupply and has done so many times in the past. The tree rings tell us that.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Aug 28, 2015 - 03:11pm PT
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As a kid we had a couple of them growing in the front yard in the SGV.
Started from seedlings that our uncle (USFS) gave us.
One died at large Christmas tree size and the other got so big the next owners of the house had to have it removed.
A friend of mine saw some strange trees that had long limbs almost to the ground in a botanical garden in NZ and asked what they were. Sequoias.
I guess they get confused down under and grow out rather than up.
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