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dirtbag

climber
Jun 12, 2016 - 06:25am PT
I'll post it again:

There is something seriously wrong with this man's heart.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 06:42am PT
It is well documented that Trump cheated on his first two wives, and that was most likely the reason they bailed on him. Ivana famously chased Trump down a ski slope in Aspen when he tried to run away from her when he was caught there with Marla Maples (La Secunda). During that incident, Trump was so stupid, he thought he could out-ski his wife Ivana, who was an Olympic Games skier. Dood's insane.

Presently, there is a lack of cheating evidence, so The Charm Effect superstition gives up a benefit of the doubt about his marriage to Melania, who may be a Saint*.













* Don't kill the messenger, but I predict this marriage will not survive Trump's presidential campaign nonsense. I predict she will bail. I also predict she will take the son, Baron, with her.

A relationship based on money and power is only sustainable as long as both are in place. My father's second marriage collapsed when the early/mid 1970's real estate boom collapsed.

I really hate to see Melania thrown into this media shitstorm. She seems nice enough. Marla Maples also seemed nice enough, but her juxtaposition to Trump also placed in front of a wet feces turbine.

Trump and Maple's daughter Tiffany looks great. Good for her. I hope for the best for her, and not some sort of Paris Hilton misbehavior nonsense.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Jun 12, 2016 - 06:51am PT
Here you go gf; it's a very interesting read .................

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 06:56am PT
I'll get to the Atlantic City story in a minute, but this just in:


Shooting at Orlando Gay Nightclub Kills About 20, Police Say

I dare you, I double-dog dare you, to say that Trump's hateful rhetoric had NOTHING to do with this.

I dare you.


A leader, like a president, by DEFINITION influences other people and affects how they behave. That's why they call that person a LEADER. He leads the other people in a direction that he believes to be the best path for the group.


Trump believes the best path is, "I'd like to punch him in the mouth" and, "Oh, poor guy, you should see this guy" (shakes spasmodically in a theatrical fashion).



The reason that the white supremacists and other bigots love Trump is because his vision is for a sanitized society where only the "good" people are allowed to live.

God is not going to be able to help you if that group ever decides that your choice of clothing (or diet) no longer conforms to what they deem to be good.





EDIT:

If I was a better mathematician (even Isaac Newton couldn't do it) I would decode the infamous DCLXVI Number Of The Beast, and it would probably come up TRUMP.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:06am PT
I dare you, I double-dog dare you, to say that Trump's hateful rhetoric had NOTHING to do with this.

I dare you.

Trump's hateful rhetoric had nothing to do with this.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:11am PT
Trump had nothing to do with this.

Fair enough. Hate doesn't need Trump to perpetuate itself.



But, Trump's hate-filled rhetoric is antagonistic to acceptance.

And, when he opens his big mouth to spew hatred, it encourages other, lesser-minded people to think that they should engage in short-minded evil actions.


REMEMBER: It was at Trump rallies that the first incidents of violence against The Others reared its ugly, degenerate head.

The violence in San Jose was a reaction to the violence at earlier Trump rallies. Violence and retribution feeds off earlier incidents, in a (my Latin fails me here, but it is analogous to quid per quo).

Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:16am PT
Oh yeah Tom. Trump is just ruining your life. Just because he's running for President.

Good grief man, put your tampon back in and face the day.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:24am PT
Please refrain from ad hominem attacks against other people posting here.


When you attack me personally, and suggest that my hemorrhoids are bleeding profusely enough to require multiple, continual insertions of anal tampons, your credibility wanes.


Noam Sane?

Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:35am PT
Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.




Let's play as adults, and not as children.


Noam Sane?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:47am PT
Oh yeah Tom. Trump is just ruining your life. Just because he's running for President.

Good grief man, put your tampon back in and face the day.


lol! can't we all just get along..
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:50am PT
re: Orlando mass shooting

I dare you, I double-dog dare you, to say that Trump's hateful rhetoric had NOTHING to do with this.

This is nonsense.

Please don't go overboard and then look as foolish as those on the extreme right.

Take a break. Sheesh.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:55am PT
According to Glenn Beck

Erik Erikksonn is planning with the GOP to dump Trump at the convention

and with the blessing of Ted Cruz, install Scott Walker as the GOP presidential nominee

all the big money hates Trump, and they need a GOP establishment Koch tool to be their man to fund, someone that can beat Hillary!

And if Ted Cruz goes along with it, he will be the GOP savior, and we will anoint him the leader of the Senate

It could happen
and then someone owes me $10

you got to listen to the other side to hear what their saying, it's pure crazy talk 24/7
no wonder Klimmer is so mixed up, he actually believes the sh#t the say
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 12, 2016 - 07:59am PT
Man I'm glad invested in4 tons of unpopped popcorn kernels. This shitshow of idiots lining up is getting good.
kattz

climber
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:00am PT
The shooting by Omar Mir Seddique Mateen had killed at least 50 at the Orlando gay club. And someone is trying to blame Trump? Haha....No, this actually shows Trump has a point. Let me bet some ties to radical Islamists are going to pop up soon...he's been on the feds' radar for 3 years, this must be for his love of gardening.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:01am PT
A leader, like a president, by DEFINITION influences other people and affects how they behave. That's why they call that person a LEADER. He leads the other people in a direction that he believes to be the best path for the group.



Back in 1993, Clinton agitated for some sort of "tough on crime" program. As a result, the local, hill-billy cops became emboldened to arrest people, whilly-nilly, for the most absurd and tenuous reasons.


The vocalizations of a leader, or even a potential leader, has a marked effect on how people behave. When Trump declares war on illegal aliens, that rhetoric naturally spills over (trickle-down effect) into incidents of similar non-acceptance.

The cause and effect here may not be entirely, 100% connectable. But, certainly, Trump has called for non-tolerance, and that hateful rhetoric can only have a deleterious affect on our society.


Dood's insane.


Noam Sane?

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:18am PT
The shooting by Omar Mir Seddique Mateen had killed at least 50 at the Orlando gay club. And someone is trying to blame Trump? Haha....No, this actually shows Trump has a point. Let me bet some ties to radical Islamists are going to pop up soon...he's been on the feds' radar for 3 years, this must be for his love of gardening.


As Tom already tried, the MSM will try to pin this on Trump's rhetoric. That would be stupid, of course.

Just another hate-filled Muslim who hates gays. Where did his hate of gays come from? Trump? Or his local Imam?

Islam and homosexuality is the story here. Not Donald Trump.
kattz

climber
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:21am PT
And let me guess...everyone in that nightclub must have been armed... took 50, awfully long, for someone to draw and stop him. It could have been just 1 or 2.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:26am PT
someone is trying to blame Trump?

Of course trump is not directly responsible, but his (and the general tone of [un]American xtian conservatives) rhetoric stokes the fire, creating more validation of radical islamists' claim that we are conducting our own jihad against islam.

The shooter was an american citizen by birth, so he and thousands of other US muslims can't be deported. Would he have tried to deport Ali?

Like it or not, the problem is more intractable than some simple-minded xenophobic action like deporting all muslims can remedy.

vvvvvv Bushes & Co. They're the ones who whacked the hornet's nest
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:28am PT
Who did you guys blame this sh#t on before Trump came along?
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 12, 2016 - 08:31am PT
Trump has brain damage (chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE) caused by his days as a champion football player, when he was incarcerated at a private military school reformatory.



The condition manifests as dementia, or declining mental ability. Patients with CTE/DP may be prone to inappropriate or explosive behavior and may display pathological jealousy or paranoia. They may exhibit other symptoms of dementia, such as memory loss, aggression, confusion and hallucinatory delusions. Again, the symptoms generally manifest only years or many decades after the trauma, and the encephalopathy can only be definitively diagnosed postmortem, during an autopsy. Odd, bizarre, anti-social and other dysfunctional behavior is sometimes the only symptom a person will exhibit.


It is clear that Donald Trump has some of these CTE symptoms, and he has the athletic history to account for them. Trump was exiled by his father to an expensive, private military school reformatory when he was thirteen, and Trump redirected his seething, raging indignity of the injustice at his fellow cadet inmates and any other children he could attack, with impunity, on the football field. His large physical size, even bigger ego, intense hatred and a rabid, win-at-all-costs enthusiasm for gridiron brutality compelled his teammates to warily keep their distance, and to fearfully crown him Team Captain.






Charles Whitman was a decorated ex-Marine, and architectural engineering student at the University of Texas in 1966. Without warning or any prior indications of encephalopathy, he murdered his mother and his wife, then he disguised himself as a maintenance worker to gain access to the top of a 28-story clock tower. He had brought a footlocker containing a small arsenal of firearms to the observation deck with him, and he proceeded to randomly shoot at people. Fourteen were killed and 32 were injured, before police were able to shoot and kill him. They found a note that Whitman had left:



I do not quite understand what it is that compels me to type this letter. Perhaps it is to leave some vague reason for the actions I have recently performed. I do not really understand myself these days. I am supposed to be an average reasonable and intelligent young man. However, lately (I cannot recall when it started) I have been a victim of many unusual and irrational thoughts ...... Maybe research can prevent further tragedies of this type.



Charles Whitman was a champion football player in high school, same as Trump.






Don't vote your conscience.

Vote your intelligence.

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