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Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jun 10, 2016 - 10:26pm PT
One of the most telling things about the Q&A was this:


Sweetheart. He had to endorse somebody. Which Republican didn't show questionable character or didn't run a campaign based on personal attacks divisiveness?

That's why they are where they are. The Tea Party modus bit them in the ass. Trump just did it better.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jun 10, 2016 - 10:41pm PT
I think he's waiting to see what the Repub Club is gonna pull at the convention.


I thought Romney wasnt going to attend?


If the FBI is your best hope, it's worse for the GOP than I thought.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2016 - 10:43pm PT
"And now Ryan is hangin w/Romney for the weekend with DOuch-Priebus? WTF???"


Umm, that would be the clearest sign yet of the implosion of the Trump-f*#k to date.

And to a more important degree, the end of the GOP as we currently know it.

Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jun 10, 2016 - 11:55pm PT
Trump must truly be insane, to think that voters are going to disregard his vast history of fraud, deceit, larceny and exploitation of his employees.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/



USA Today has uncovered hundreds of liens and lawsuits filed against Trump and his companies for theft of wages, stealing tips from waitresses, and non-payment for painting, plumbing and other construction work. Trump has even screwed his own attorneys by refusing to pay them.

Trump says he is a champion of the "little guy", but he has repeatedly used the courts to overpower "the little guy" in order to withhold payment for work that has been completed. Trump's business chicanery has resulted in a number of small business being forced into bankruptcy and out of existence.

Trump's Art of the Deal is to "renegotiate" the terms of a deal by claiming inferior quality work. Presumably, this is why the dishwasher at Trump's Doral Miami golf resort had to sue Trump to get properly paid. And that's why Trump up-charges catering bills with a 22% gratuity, but then keeps the servers' tips for himself.


For just one Trump construction project, the Trump Taj Mahal, New Jersey state records show that in 1990 Trump withheld almost $70 million from 256 subcontractors. Trump paid as little as 30 cents on the dollar, claiming inferior work. He then asked those same contractors to continue to work on Trump projects. Many of the small construction companies that Trump defrauded in this manner went out of business.




In a USA TODAY interview, Trump repeatedly said the cases were “a long time ago,” despite the fact that he is currently embroiled in a large number of lawsuits for non-payment, fraud and other shady business dealings. Trump rationalized theft of hourly wages and non-payment to contractors by claiming he was unhappy with the work. He then said, “That’s what the country should be doing.”

In the interview, Trump said, “We pay everybody what they’re supposed to be paid, and we pay everybody on time.”

Presumably, Trump gets to decide "what they're supposed to be paid," regardless of what labor laws and work contracts require. Trump's idea of paying "on time" is use the courts to stall payment as long as possible, and to deplete the resources of people he owes money to.

In the same interview, Trump's daughter Ivanka defended him, and said that the Trump Organization pays hundreds of millions of dollars to employees, contractors, vendors and others that do business with the organization.

Ivanka is currently being sued by a small jewelry company that says she refused to pay for delivered diamond jewelry because Ivanka's AutoCAD design drawings were returned to her one day late.



Last month, Trump’s refusal to pay a Florida painter more than $30,000 for his work at the Doral led the judge in the case to order foreclosure of the resort if the contractor was not promptly paid. Juan Carlos Enriquez, owner of The Paint Spot, in South Florida, has been waiting more than two years to get paid.

The judge ordered last month that the Doral resort be foreclosed on, sold, and the proceeds used to pay Enriquez the money he was owed. Trump’s attorneys have since filed a motion to delay the sale, and the contest continues.

Enriquez still hasn’t been paid.

In courtroom testimony, the manager of the general contractor for the Doral renovation admitted that a decision was made not to pay The Paint Spot because Trump had “already paid enough.”

The judge noted in his ruling that as the construction manager spoke, “Trump’s trial attorneys visibly winced, began breathing heavily, and attempted to make eye contact” with the witness.




You can't make this stuff up.

Trump's reality is far, far more diabolical than any fiction could ever possibly be.


healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 11, 2016 - 02:28am PT
The gop has several problems with trump.

First and foremost is he personifies and shines a bright light on their sixty year history of campaigning solely on bigotry, hate and fear.

Second, his personal business history is based on avarice, greed and screwing the little guy thus reminding everyone of the fact the gop is the right hand of corporate interests who don't give a rip about the average citizen other than how much debt load they can be burdened with over their lifetimes.

Third, he's donald and can't be scripted which is horrifying in and of itself to campaign professionals and there's just no dodging his overspray.

On top of those he's also a black hole media sink stealing attention from other races and throwing senate and house campaigns into disarray as a result. And fending off the collateral damage he generates is keeping the RNC too off-balance and distracted to be effective in supporting important house and senate races.

It's a disaster.

But it's also what happens when you gerrymander excessively on racial and economic lines for decades such that the gop primary then unavoidably becomes a race-to-the-bottom spectacle ahead of the general election.
perswig

climber
Jun 11, 2016 - 02:57am PT
The elites fear something big, they're behaving irrationally. I wonder what it is they fear?

That's he's behaving even more irrationally.
Dale

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 11, 2016 - 05:28am PT
Funny that a rich, white, arrogant racist is going to destroy the republican party. Karma!
trailridge127

Trad climber
Loveland, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 07:14am PT
Donald posted on twitter :
"Mitt Romney had his chance to beat a failed president but he choked like a dog. Now he calls me racist-but I am least racist person there is"

So there you have it you can stop playing the racist card against him.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 07:17am PT
i need a little help here trail...

if he's the least racist person there is then why do all the racists flock to him like he's the second coming of hitler?

maybe i'd get a better answer out of dummy donald dummy drumpf?
trailridge127

Trad climber
Loveland, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 07:33am PT
The herd will flock to anything that they can twist their ideas around. They clearly liked his idea of a wall. It enables the thinking of superiority by keep others out it makes one feel special, but the only difference is not one of superior genes, just purely chance and luck of being on this side of an imaginary line. America has been successful, not because who we are, but where we are. Its all about resources.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 07:34am PT
#OrangeIsNotTheNewBlack
dirtbag

climber
Jun 11, 2016 - 07:39am PT
Mitt Romney played a role in legitimizing the Orange One in 20111 when he sought his endorsement. Everyone knew that the Orange One's birtherism was dog whistle racism.

It's hard to take Romney's whines seriously: he fed the orange monster.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 11, 2016 - 07:46am PT
The great white hope is orange.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 08:43am PT
^^^ yup, so true.

well then, oh great smoking duck, what then do you suggest those incapable of seeing themselves for what they are do?

How does a racist admit they are a racist and change?

how does a believer in an imaginary friend in the sky realize the god they seek is inside them and make the change from being a follower to a believer in their own personal divinity?

You've got the orange one blaming others for the problems his followers suffer from. And he's got them believing he'll fix it. Do you really believe he's ever going to offer the idea that the problems people have in the world belong to themselves and the solution is to look inside and not blame others? He's a Demagogue and a con man. What's the solution there oh wise one?

The great yogi's of the world get it. The Tantra offers a teaching that we should explore the possibility that we might not be correct. A teaching that makes one look at their position and ask how they might be wrong. It doesn't make the other position correct. It's not an easy thing to do. Not an easy path.


But seriously Werner... you continue to point out what the problem is but not once have you offered a solution. What say yee? And do you need a light?
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jun 11, 2016 - 08:46am PT
Maybe Alex Jones can beam in a Leader from Area 51 acceptable to our interplanetary visitor.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 11, 2016 - 08:48am PT
"But seriously Werner... continue to point out what the problem is but not once have you offered a solution. What say yee? And do you need a light?"


Werner doesn't have one he just love to insult and that bizarre little mind of his he thinks he is above the fray. Just like every other spiritual fake.


On the floor of the NBA final last night.


nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 09:01am PT
Thanks Dad. But I got this one. Yer in over your head. Maybe just stick to bad parenting ;-)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 11, 2016 - 09:31am PT
or an answer to my question
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 11, 2016 - 09:33am PT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFw2qecPrNw[Click to View YouTube Video]

live
dikhed

climber
State of fugue and disbelief
Jun 11, 2016 - 09:42am PT
How could anyone listen to that guy for more than 30 seconds? 2 hours of that sh#t, please
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