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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 9, 2016 - 06:41pm PT
I think the best post of this thread is the first one:

I love American elections !




It's either that, or the third one.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 9, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
Is it a noggin issue...

No comment....lol
Norton

Social climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:02pm PT
Interesting that the Ninth Circuit which makes leftie oriented decisions is biased

yes, isn't it it interesting that today the 9th ruled against the NRA (a righty outfit) essentially a 2nd Amendment decision
and in favor of the state of California to make and uphold Concealed Handgun Law.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:13pm PT
in favor of the state of California to make and uphold Concealed Handgun Law.

Yeah, good one.

So, Californians can't carry loaded handguns openly. They can't carry loaded long guns. And now the everyday person can't even carry concealed weapons. So, with this ruling, the right of self-defense is basically dead in California. The whole state is now a "gun free" zone.

Schhhhweeet! It's a paradise for the left.

I'm so glad I'm outta there. Fortunately there are still a few saner states remaining.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
^I don't get it norton.
Norton

Social climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:17pm PT
Madbolter, too bad you moved to Colorado .....wouldn't you feel more at home in Utah, Idaho or Wyoming?
Norton

Social climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
^I don't get it norton.

nobody cares about "madbolters" I'm a victim bellyaching, zbrown

good riddance when he leaves, actually Somalia is a good place for him, true "libertarians" there



Norton

Social climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:21pm PT
Do you guys really think it somehow effects me that you claim I'm a Trump supporter?

duh, no we just hope you graduate high school next year....
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
I'm sure it will be much safer in Kali now....
zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
Stop whining crybaby wimp.

I've lived in California 70 years and never had to gun-up to protect myself despite having had one pulled on me and living at times in some very tough parts of town.

I do own two that I pretty much inherited. Neither is a handgun and I don't ever get the urge to parade around town with them.



zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:32pm PT
Norton

yes, isn't it it interesting that today the 9th ruled against the NRA (a righty outfit) essentially a 2nd Amendment decision
and in favor of the state of California to make and uphold Concealed Handgun Law.

This is what I was referring to. JE and I were discussing bias in the Circuit Courts. His take is the Ninth is biased (presumably because they lean left). My point is that he didn't discuss right leaners bias_wise.


madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:32pm PT
nobody cares about "madbolters" I'm a victim bellyaching, zbrown

good riddance when he leaves, actually Somalia is a good place for him, true "libertarians" there

ROFL

So predictable:

I'm a victim.

I'm arrogant.

I'm a racist.

I'm a hater.

I'm bitter.

I'm a libertarian.

I'm stupid.

I'm ridiculous.

I perpetually need to check my privilege.

Yeah, yeah.

Whatever.

You guys demonstrate the last vestiges of the left's intellectually bankrupt "responses" to anybody who doesn't agree with every cardinal tenant of your "progressive," nanny-state, give-away everything platform.

Name calling, ad hominem attacks, and vile insults are your MO.

Oh, I forgot: Pointing out that fact is "whining," so....

I'm a whiner.

LOLOLOL

Carry on.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
Stop whining crybaby wimp. I've lived in California 70 years and never had to gun-up to protect myself despite having had one pulled on me and living in some very tough parts of town.

Ah, yes, the dog-pile has just gotten started.

Let's see if I've got this right....

Because you've never felt the need to be armed, that means that NOBODY should have any right to be armed. Petite women, old people, smaller-frame guys who haven't devoted years to martial arts training... in other words, the vast majority of law-abiding citizens should be forced to "just call 911" when trouble comes their way.

Because you are some self-proclaimed bad-ass, EVERYBODY else should just "buck up" and be a bad-ass too.

Right? Did I get it right?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:36pm PT
And now the everyday person can't even carry concealed weapons. So, with this ruling, the right of self-defense is basically dead in California. The whole state is now a "gun free" zone.

Did you actually read the decision MB, or are you just parroting the right wing website du jour.

You are just like the genius at the recent town hall meeting that asked the President, "why are you restricting sales and ownership of our guns". The Presidents response was good and applies to today's ruling

[Click to View YouTube Video]

zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
Right? Did I get it right?

No you did not.


Because you've never felt the need to be armed, that means that NOBODY should have any right to be armed.

and so on and so on


I didn't say that, you did.

Don't try to put words in my mouth. I can speak for myself.

There are millions of folks in California and the rest of the United States that don't share your paranoia. Tons of them are veterans who actually fought in wars, yet don't "feel the burning need" for guns.




madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:43pm PT
Did you actually read the decision MB, or are you just parroting the right wing website du jour.

Did you? And are you able to perform a couple of basic inferences from that decision?

1) It is already illegal to open-carry a loaded firearm. So, open-carry of anything but a useless gun-shaped piece of metal and (perhaps) polymer is illegal.

2) It was already basically impossible to get a concealed carry license, which meant that for the vast majority of Californians, concealed-carry was denied them.

3) This decision cemented California's "right" to stick with both (1) and (2).

Put them together, and you have an entire state in which it is illegal for the vast majority of people to arm themselves with the same weapon of choice used by all of the criminals that will not obey any of these gun laws.

Explain to me how there is any other implication. Explain to me how the "right to keep and BEAR" arms has not been "infringed" in California. Explain to me how the average person in California is able to exercise their 2nd amendment RIGHT (that is, btw, based upon the right of self-defense).
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:47pm PT
I can speak for and defend myself.

Ooooo... SUCH a tough guy.

I'm pissing myself in spurts just thinking about HOW bad-ass you must be!

Of course, you did not explain how the AVERAGE (vast majority) of Californians are supposed to defend themselves... you know, not being as scintillatingly BAD-ass as you.

Oh, right. Trouble never comes to non-bad-asses, so everybody else has nothing to worry about (insert picture of college doors "locked" from the inside with string, etc.).

Just call 911. That's the ONLY "right" you have, and it's ALL that the founders could have meant by "shall not be infringed."

Uh, huh.

Oh, have I mentioned that just reading your mighty words makes me piss myself?

In spastic spurts!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
"I'm a victim.

I'm arrogant.

I'm a racist.

I'm a hater.

I'm bitter.

I'm a libertarian.

I'm stupid.

I'm ridiculous.

I perpetually need to check my privilege."




Dude, leave Republicans alone. They are really hurting right now as they watch their Party implode.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jun 9, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
They are really hurting right now as they watch their Party implode.

You are right about that. It is indeed amazing to watch.

Both parties need to go by the same wayside of history.
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