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RocktoRock

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 7, 2015 - 10:46am PT
*Final Update: Thank you to everyone who helped out in identifying and pricing all of these really cool Items. I ended up selling the majority to another gentleman named Jesse. So I believe he will be piecing out the collection further. If you have any questions about it then please talk to him. @ jsmathey@gmail.com



Updated again with more pictures 8-9-15*Found a few more things


*Updated*
Hey I'm sorry if I posted this to the wrong area, I was over at mountain project and they said I should post up on here to see if anyone is interested in this before I go the ebay route.

Alright I was a little rushed when I posted this the first time so here is a little more information on the items, why I'm posting them as well as more pictures.

So, I was asked by a friend to see if I could sell these for him, they where given to him by a lady who was moving and whose husband died (apparently many years ago) I'm not sure on the rest of the story but that may explain the like new quality of most of these items. They literally look like someone went to Seattle bought several thousand dollars worth of equipment in the 1970's went home used a few of them once (maybe.) and then they got put in a box and have been sitting there ever since.
Anyway, He has A. far less patience then I do and B. wanted someone who knew how to put things up online to give a shot at selling them.
So I am hoping to sell them without even putting them on Ebay (going through paypal still though) and I'm giving you guys the first shot at it before I do (if I have to). If you have any questions please let me know !








same stuff different angle



New Pictures ___






I just feel like I'm photobombing the post....I hope I'm not.





Anchors Titons

_More New Pictures 8-9-15___











Here are a few counts for everything .

Stoppers:
1.0 weight 7
1.5 weight 3
2.0 weight 9
2.5 weight 2
3.0 weight 6
3.5 weight 3
4.0 weight 3
4.5 4
5.0 2
5.5 3
6.0 2
6.5 3
7.0 2
7.5 3
8.0 2
8.5 3

Total 114

Carabiners
24 r. robbin 3000 lb
38 chouinard 4000lb
62 chouinard 2200kp
8 smc alum
1 smc
1 chouinard 2100 kg

Total 134

Lost Arrow Pinions
9 total

Crack n ups (the anchor shaped items I believe)
3 6's
3 5's
3 4's
5 3's
1 2


7 friends

20 drillls
6 warthogs w/ratchet
10 pegs

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 7, 2015 - 11:02am PT
I am interested in the Climax, one of the Dolt hangers and a factory drilled #8 Hexentric (top stamped) as I have most of the rest of your gear already. I will pm you and start the negotiation.

If the small red items in the plastic in the sixth picture are belay seats , I would be interested in one of those too.
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Aug 7, 2015 - 11:06am PT
That looks like a Dolt Cobra hook near the Dolt hangers.....
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 7, 2015 - 11:08am PT
Looks like a Chouinard Skyhook to me.
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Aug 7, 2015 - 11:09am PT
Yer prolly right.....
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 7, 2015 - 12:35pm PT
I found your post on mountain project:
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/need-experienced-opinion-on-older-chouinard-climbing-equipment-/110845912

Allen Sanderson's post with values is pretty accurate.

He didn't mention the Lost Arrow pitons (photos #10, 12-14).
Those are still sold by Black Diamond; retail is $18 - $22 each.
http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/big-wall-climbing/lost-arrowr-pitons-BD52050000002__1.html

The SMC bolt hangers (photo #11) are considered weak relative to modern hangers, but they are light and in perfect shape, so people might bid on them.

The Dolt bolt hangers (photo #10 with green tags) are worth more. Not sure exactly how much. Maybe $10+ each.

The Chouinard skyhooks (photo #10, next to the Lost Arrows) are mostly still made. $14 currently.
http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/big-wall-climbing
But the one older model hook in that photo (in lower right, left of the lower Dolt hanger) has not been made in a long time. It's probably valuable. $50+ ?

I consider the earlier (1972-3) Chouinard carabiners (photo #4, I think they say 2200kp) very beautiful. I think they would sell for $10+ each on ebay. GunksJesse has one up on ebay (8/9) and it is bid up to $17 after one day.
The later ones (photo #5, 4000 pounds) (1974) are not as pretty (flatter sides) and are more plentiful, I believe.
There is a thread here on supertopo which gives the dates each model was made:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1327553/Chouinard-carabiner-Timeline-Identification-Guide-1968-89

Please let us know if you put these up on ebay.

#16 tensioners for tent guy lines (generic)
#17 just tent pegs (not Chouinard)
#21 Optimus is a stove
#22 Swiss Army Knife (worth putting on ebay since it has original box)
crunch

Social climber
CO
Aug 7, 2015 - 01:52pm PT
Sanderson's values appear top-dollar valuations, though I'm more familiar with values of some items than others.

The value of these ice-hammers on eBay depends on the condition and on carefully photographing and spelling out the things that people look for: for instance, playing up the "Chouinard" name and diamond symbol (a crisp photo of the name on the handle is helpful). A clear photo of the tooth configuration also helpful).

One such hammer, scuffed with a couple paint stains sold for only 72 bucks a month ago. About 100+ bucks is typical, depending on who happens to be bidding and on exactly what year and model the hammer is (teeth configuration, e.g., changed slighty from time to time). You might, just, get 150....

I'd buy the Warthogs (looks like you have six?) but to me they are not worth Sanderson's estimate of 50 bucks, I'll pay about 20+ each. If you can get more, go for it. I'd pay 15 each for the three longest Lost Arrows (that's about 75% retail). Again, if you can get more, go for it.

I'll be out of town over the weekend. PM me if interested.
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Aug 7, 2015 - 04:02pm PT
Hi - Thank you for offering all this..

I'm down for:

-Dolt Hanger

-Snow Saw

-Aluminum water bottle

I'd like a few more things but I'll chill and give others a chance.

I'm ready to pay....
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 7, 2015 - 04:05pm PT
I'm pretty sure that plain aluminum bottle is a stove fuel bottle, made by Sigg, not Chouinard. I have one somewhere. The red anodized ones are Sigg, too, I recall.
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Aug 7, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
Thanks - still interested (in bottle).

Dig it!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 8, 2015 - 06:41am PT
While off the taco,for a few days, I saw this post too.
Wow what a cool stash of gear!
Three things come to mind, an ex store owner/Manager,
a stolen hoard,(Sorry, but that tag reads - "must be removed"... as in Warehouse inventory tag, before computers, that's how it was kept track of)
Or some very sad story that none of it is used.

I wish for many things , that I can't afford. but really feel that a lot of this gear should be bought up by supertopians.

Time, I have lots of it seems (I hope;-p) - money not so much , like everyone, mostly.
That said I will wait till the best and still serviceable has been picked, I need modern shoes and a mohonk fund for the fall so as I said no Dolt hooks or hangers, no Hammers or death jugs, (if you ever traversed with those, hey Clint what was the Jerry-rig fix for that?)
For the Gnome. ;(

Anyway a bump and a dream of a good home for what can and should go up ,
Not on EBay but some thing on the big stone

anyone buying it all in one go!
otisdog

Big Wall climber
Sierra Madre & McGee Creek, Ca.
Aug 8, 2015 - 06:51am PT
I'd like a pair of yellow jumars and the hammer with the leather holder and purple tether.
RocktoRock

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 8, 2015 - 08:23am PT
I have tried to respond to each of you guys let me know if I missed anyone !
Thank you for all of the interest
RocktoRock

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 8, 2015 - 09:02am PT
@ Gnome ofthe Diabase

I hope they weren't stolen =/, as far as I know the gentleman who owned it all died, I'm not sure if it was tragic or not. His wife who my friend got these items from basically put them all in boxes Years and Years ago, and never looked at them again until she was moving. Which is how my friend was given them.

I would love someone to just say I'll take them all hah!

and I have to say that your reply was pretty darn near poetic sir. Thanks for that
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 8, 2015 - 09:16am PT
A wonderful collection of gear, that could keep you busy on EBay for some time.

Although it seems logical to sell it directly with payment through PayPal, your anonymity does raise a "red-flag" since EBay has built in protection for both buyers & sellers.
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Aug 8, 2015 - 10:09am PT
If the red cord has incremental crimped metal markers then it was used for avalanche rescues. The cord was trailed behind the climber/skier...simply follow the cord.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Aug 8, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
Interested in the crack'n ups... just sent message...
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 8, 2015 - 01:44pm PT
Thanks for the additional photos and story.
I will identify several of the items in the new photos.
Chouinard Climaxe. Basically a short handled version of their regular axe. These were only made for 1 year or so, because the head was too light. Some people used them anyway, by wrapping lead around the head to increase the weight.
Chouinard Stoppers. The half sizes and straight sides date them to around 1977.
The tag (from 1980) is not an original manufacturer's tag, but a customer service tag from REI, and it is for the yellow Jumars, which lines up with the 1980 date. Probably the yellow Jumars were ordered for this person and he came to pick them up.
Chouinard Hexcentrics on perlon (and a couple of Chouinard Stoppers on perlon). The symmetric design of the hexes dates them to 1972-74 or so.
The ratchet is for placing the Chouinard ice screws. (1977 - early 80s)
The warthogs you just pound straight in.
(To take them out, insert ice axe pick in eye and try to turn).
It's called avalanche cord.
SMC 1/4" bolt hanger, chrome-moly steel. More fragile than their later thicker stainless steel version.
Rawl 1/4" x 1.5" stud bolts. Still usable for aid climbing, but the shorter 1/4" x 1" are faster to place.
Silva compass, a quality brand.
Swiss Army Knife. (Brand still exists today). This is a fairly basic model.
Candle lantern, and 3 Sigg aluminum fuel bottles
Chouinard Supergaitors. These date to 1976-78. (I used these myself, back in the day).
The two nylon wheels in the lower left are SMC pulleys, meant to be inserted into SMC oval carabiners.
Sticht Seilbremse. A belay/rappel device.
Hiebler ascender (one piece of the pair), made by Salewa. These are not seen very often; the pair is probably worth over $100. Use ebay for these.
Leeper nut pick.
Chouinard Crack-N-Ups. ~1976. Check ebay for value
Fifi hook, made by Salewa. Similar models are still made/sold today.
MSR stove, early model. Probably still works. Many of these were made and used, but might have collector value.

Where are you located?
You really should put the more valuable stuff up on ebay.
I'm slightly interested in the gray Jumars (I still use a pair and they are fairly worn), the Chouinard rock hammer (I use one just like it, but am worried it might break someday, but I'm not willing to pay the $80-100 yours is worth, so you'd better sell it to someone else!), and a couple of the 1972 Chouinard biners.
RocktoRock

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 11, 2015 - 01:41am PT
@ Fritz
Well, I wish I could dispel that fear mate but not a whole lot I can do there. It is the internet after all eh ?

@ Timid Top Rope
Yes it does !

and @ Roots
I don't think it ever got used actually ! But the story behind that would be pretty neat.
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Aug 11, 2015 - 02:59am PT
Those drilled hexes are gold. They were only made for a year or two before Frost went for a lesser thinner walled version. Don't give those up easily. I'd personally pay upwards of $50 for that #11. The set is worth at least $100. They would go right on my rack rather than a collection, though ( they don't look 'right' so shiny like that!)

Those crack n ups are also worth a bit-very rare, as most non collector versions would have been converted to beaks in the 80's and 90's.

Ps, don't use those thin walled SMC bolt hangars. Many of those were defective and would crack during placement or first load. Also, the. Smallest split shank Rawl volts are 1 1/4", not 1" as mentioned above.
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