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jstan
climber
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Oct 13, 2006 - 06:52am PT
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Exactly. That is my point.
Cheers,
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Pierre
Big Wall climber
Sweden
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Oct 13, 2006 - 11:59am PT
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Climbers don't need cars to get around the Valley, what we need is the silly 7 day limit to vanish! (For Christ sake - what can you possibly do in a week if you are a climber and want's to climb El Cap!)
One big reason that there are so many climber-cars in Camp 4 parking lot, is because you just aren't allowed in camp for more than 7 days, if climbers could pitch a tent for 30 or 60 days then there would not be any need for a car to stash your gear.
Get rid of Camp 4 parking lot, make it a place for tents instead, expand the limit to at least one or two months for climbers who visit without a car!
Yes I have stayed in Camp 4 and I have walked to many climbs from there, El Cap with haulbag, Leaning Tower with haulbag, it is not hard to get around the valley without a car...
We are Climbers for crying out loud, we don't need cars, or buses for that matter, to get around Yosemite Valley!
peace
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2010 - 08:24pm PT
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Bump. An intelligent and climbing-related discussion happened here.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 14, 2010 - 11:31pm PT
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5 time 6 equals 30. A sterling example of the real estate mantra- location, location, location.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Oct 14, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
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Yosemite Park
2009 Budget - $28,398,513
2009 Visitors - 3,866,970
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2010 - 12:31am PT
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Greg, it's hardly a rigorous analysis, particularly given that demand far exceeds supply. Simply a suggestion of another way to look at Camp 4.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Oct 15, 2010 - 12:59am PT
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Nice discussion. Appreciate all the comments and ideas. Having stayed in camp 4, overall I agree with Pierre's comments.
WHY can't civil ammenities be provided in camp four ? Figure in costs not per camp area but per total all campsite areas.
To me ..... I think it's a total rag on climbers. Is a Real mirror so expensive or are you just trying to say FU to people that appreciate this incredible place. Why can't the taps work on the faucets. Why is the place without tp and the sinks so filthy. Leave cleaning stuff and we'll clean the place on our own.
Climbing adds much to the Valley. Tourons love the "Bridge" and El Cap Meadows.
And say thanks for the coffee in front of Columbia Boulder. Nice !
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 15, 2010 - 01:00am PT
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I bet Delaware North could improve things a lot for half the money!
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