Wingsuiting without a parachute the future?

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
This thread has been locked
Messages 21 - 40 of total 46 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jul 5, 2015 - 10:10am PT
I've thought the same thing as moose - ski jumping. The body angle of a ski jumper looks close to that of a wing suit jumper. The question is could you fly a wing suit and ski jumping skis at the same time. You could practice it in a sky dive and eject the skis if you couldn't get stable. If you could fly both you'd probably improve your glide ratio over a wing suit alone. Then it's just a matter of finding a very long landing hill with the right angle to land on.

Alternatively or in conjunction with sky diving practice you could wear a wing suit while ski jumping for practice. You'd probably need a special hill though which would cost big bucks because the existing hills are already maxed out distance wise any farther and you'd land in the flats.
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Jul 5, 2015 - 10:17am PT
^^^ Shane McConkey died this way, RIP.
steve shea

climber
Jul 5, 2015 - 10:39am PT
The speed skiing aspect might work. However speed skiing has had catastrophic accidents as well. And these were after the skier parted from the gear. If you slide you live hopefully if you get off the specially prepared track and put one digit in softer snow the cartwheeling begins. Then you have big trouble.

Course preparation is what speed skiing is all about. It would take some very special location and prep to do this wingsuit landing sans chute on snow.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Jul 5, 2015 - 11:27am PT
^^^ Shane McConkey died this way, RIP.
Not really. He wasn't trying to land on skis and they weren't ski jumping skis. He was skiing off a cliff and then ditching the skis and then wingsuiting. His mechanism for releasing the skis failed
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Jul 5, 2015 - 11:33am PT
yes gumby, just did not feel like posting all the details.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jul 5, 2015 - 12:41pm PT
If you've ever taken a dive while cruising along barefoot water skiing, or otherwise at speeds above 25-30 mph, then you have some inkling as to the low compressibility of water. At the speeds you'd be talking for a wingsuit touchdown you might as well contemplate landing in the center lane on any random stretch of I-5.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 5, 2015 - 12:44pm PT
Yes, and even if you 'flat plate' you're not gonna get your speed below 80-90, at best. OUCH!
Given the lightness of chutes this pursuit seems a fool's errand.
Gary

Social climber
From A Buick 6
Jul 5, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
A friend who raced boats said hitting water at over 20 miles per hour was no different than hitting concrete.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jul 5, 2015 - 06:28pm PT
Just wear roller skates and aim for the I-80 heading off Donner Summit.

Or wait until Mavericks is going off and land right into a barrel.

Problem solved.

-Limpgenius

Hmmm... That doesn't work as well as when Moosedrool does it
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 5, 2015 - 07:00pm PT
Snow is so much more forgiving than liquid H2O

Have to get that landing speed below 70..40 would be nice and pretty easy.

Not happening with current wingsuits.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jul 6, 2015 - 01:37pm PT
Ski jumpers take off at 60. I don't know how fast they land but downhill racers can hit 80. Wing suits fly around 100. I guess you couldn't flare on the landing so you couldn't slow down. If they could increase the glide ratio and slow the speed it seems possible.
Alpamayo

Trad climber
Davis, CA
Jul 6, 2015 - 02:20pm PT
I seem to remember a story about a wing-suiter at bridge day not deploying his chute and gliding/augering into the New River and surviving.

Anyone know something about this?
coolrockclimberguy69

climber
Jul 6, 2015 - 02:30pm PT

[Click to View YouTube Video]


BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 6, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
What a line this is/8-D

[Click to View YouTube Video]
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Jul 6, 2015 - 02:51pm PT
^^^^ wingsuit porn
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jul 6, 2015 - 04:44pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 6, 2015 - 10:15pm PT
DMT, I already addressed 'flat plating'. It's a fighter pilot maneuver akin to 'locking 'em up'
so that yer pursuer blows by you and enables you to get on his six. A wingsuitor would have
to be able to do it about 6' above the ground as he would cease to fly at that moment and
would become a nylon clad rock. The trouble is they don't have that kind of lateral control
authority.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 30, 2017 - 08:06pm PT
is this real?

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Rollover

climber
Gross Vegas
Nov 30, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
What the what!?????!!!!
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Nov 30, 2017 - 08:54pm PT
The Warbler
Jul 4, 2015 - 06:57pm PT
the first successful, without injury, parachute free landing would be a major accomplishment and feather in the cap of the guy to pull it off. I suspect there's some competition involved.

It will happen. Probably around the time somebody free solos Freerider.

Sooo? ;)
Messages 21 - 40 of total 46 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
 
Our Guidebooks
spacerCheck 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks

guidebook icon
Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Route Beta