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dirtbag
climber
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Our founding fathers would be so proud to see the US Gov. funded by an America that's only a tourist stop for Disneyland and Vegas while dealing prostitution, drugs, alcohol, and cigaretts.
Many of them made their fortunes off slavery and booze.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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It would have been illegal for Justice Thomas and his wife to be inter-racially married in their state of residence prior to the 1967 SCOTUS ruling for Loving v. Virginia. The Virginia judge who handed down the Lovings' miscegenation felony conviction had this to say about their [unholy] union:
"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races show that he did not intend for the races to mix."
Many churches and much religious doctrine opposed inter-racial marriage ('mixing of the seeds'), all using bible scripture to justify their opposition.
Thomas' hypocrisy on the issue is palpable and the corresponding religious dogma intolerable. Younger generations get that and so they and their children will view Obergefell v. Hodges the same way we view Loving v. Virginia and Brown v. Board of Education - as the burying of hateful anachronisms as we strive to grow as a society.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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I guess I win by default since no fundies even dared to respond to my question. Yay!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents.
A new one on me, Theosophical Anthropology. Kind of begs the question, since God is clearly white (born and raised in Dixie) why did he bother with the other four mongrel races?
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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The haunting things about Healyje's quote from the Justice is his inflated, biblical diction, the evil judgement (now obvious) lurking in his rant, but most of all, the blasphemy of ascribing such human villainy to "God."
In most all such instances where vile, naked judgement masquerade as God's will, the author comes from a place of stark and lonesome shamelessness. And as psychologists have since discovered, a spiritual life is impossible without a quotient of healthy shame, which begins with acknowledging human limits.
JL
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Research. Yes, research.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Joseph, thanks for posting the quote from the Loving v. Virginia decision.
To me, the people who would forbid same-sex marriage are no different from the people -- like that judge -- who would have forbidden my marriage back then.
In a way, I almost hope that they're right about judgement and heaven and hell, because if they are, they are the ones who will suffer eternal torment, while a whole lot of gay couples will be enjoying happy life eternal.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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I can hear the Alex Jones hate already...ha
Anyway....coincidentally... just after reading this thread I came across this. I haven't done any research as to validity but interesting none the less.
Churches should be taxed just like any other business.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Yes, I'm fully gloating at the expense of my patient. Or maybe I'm happy that the fundies on this forum couldn't even begin to constuct a cogent answer to the honestly asked question.
Separation of church & state is a basic tenet of our constitution that is constantly under attack by a dwindling but rabidly fundamental minority of voting citizens and it must be defended wherever it is challenged.
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son of stan
Boulder climber
San Jose CA
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Agree with that. But for starters those union crooks at the AFL/CIO and all others need to be taxed to the limit.
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WBraun
climber
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You miserable whinny bitches.
You've been given the green light but all ya can do is still bitch.
Get married now and quit bitching .....
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Wow Locker....sounds like some people here think they're being forced into a gay marriage.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I have been perplexed by the outfall of the SC decision: Public officials claiming that they can defy the law that they have sworn to uphold (the Constitution of the US), because they have a religious disagreement with the law.
If I'm a soldier feeling that way towards Mormons, does that mean I can start shooting them, because I don't have to acknowledge their constitutional rights and protections?
If I'm an officer who believes in the OLD BOOK way of things, may I take a soldier accused of being late for curfew, and burning him at the stake?
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dirtbag
climber
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Ken, I read that a few clerks with misgivings about gay marriages did not marry gay couples, but instead did the next best thing: quit.
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Norton
Social climber
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has our resident cracker racist been around lately?
oh wait, there's more than one?
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dirtbag
climber
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You really want to equate homosexuality between consenting people with the rape of children?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Oh, it's coming dirtbag. Mark my words.
Hardly. There is still something called age of consent.
Susan
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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The recent Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage may soon allow pedophiles to argue they are suffering discrimination.
It may, but I think that discrimination against pedophiles would survive strict scrutiny. Discrimination against same-sex marriage does not.
John
Edit: To make it clear, NWO2 said that the ruling may allow people to argue. As Thomas Sowell said to me once in grad school, "That's an interesting argument, Mr. Eleazarian - as opposed to a convincing one."
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