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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 16, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
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Wilbeer, will you vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Feb 16, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
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Generally I agree with you Craig...
Hedges' "we're completely f*#ked" message is from the perspective of the disenfranchised members of our society, poor and working class people, homeless, etc. These members of our society get fuc#ed no matter who is in the White House. Seems like Jimmy Carter is the last president who paid any attention to the plight of working class people.
I don't think Hedges is too concerned about the privileged, bourgeois class that usually posts on the Taco Stand.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
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Feb 16, 2016 - 06:25pm PT
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Just to interrupt - cleaning a new 11-bolt 5.11 at the Gorge today.
Eat it, Politards:
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 16, 2016 - 06:46pm PT
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Just to interrupt - cleaning a new 11-bolt 5.11 at the Gorge today.
Yeah? So is that third bolt a Trump supporter?
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Feb 16, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
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That's awesome MisterE but Bernie wants to raise your minimum wage to $15/hr ;-)
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Feb 16, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
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Damn. Bernie is on point. But Greenspan gives not a single f*#k.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 17, 2016 - 10:08am PT
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10b4me,I am an anti-republican,therefore,yes I will vote for the Democratic candidate.
Not without a stern fight.
Like I said before,she did nothing,I repeat nothing, over here in her senate tenure.
The best thing she ever did here in New York State was;
Leave.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 17, 2016 - 10:19am PT
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The Minimum Wage
Hasn't been raised in ~10 years
and let's admit the facts, if it was lower, people would be paid lower
The polls say 80% are for a higher Minimum wage,
who's stopping it from being raised?
Republicans
Republican Governors are signing laws to the effect that the Minimum wage can't be raised, part of the Koch Brother ALEC program
The Republicans will scream that raising the minimum wage will Kill Jobs!
It's a total lie, raising it does 2 things:
-It stimulates the economy-because more people have money to spend
-It creates jobs because the added demand by people spending money
Which is the exact opposite of what the Republicans want you to believe.
Even though they used it as a stimulus when they're in power, hypocrites.
Please, show me one fact checked article that proves me wrong.
Go Bernie, Go Hillary
Go America, fix our economy and put people back to work.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 10:20am PT
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I'm afraid Bernie's going to win the party and Trump the presidency.
I don't know, maybe that could be a good thing. Sometimes shaken not stirred is best.
Young people, mind the adage: Be careful what you wish for.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 17, 2016 - 10:21am PT
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I agree with Obama
Trump WILL NOT BECOME our President
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 17, 2016 - 10:26am PT
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Yea, I'm not worried about Bernie being "old". The guy is still sharp and relatively healthy, as opposed to Scalia who looked pretty bad the years before he died of "natural causes".
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 11:30am PT
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HFCS, it will be a bumpy ride, but she is still polling well overall compared with Bernie. The primary process is still young, and Bernie has only had 1/1000 the scrutiny that Hillary has received: in other words, he has gotten a pretty easy ride. I think she'll pull through, probably as a stronger candidate in the end.
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Norton
Social climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
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I'm afraid Bernie's going to win the party and Trump the presidency.
Frutose,
no Republican, least of all Trump, can even get to close to the 270 Electoral votes
needed to become President
case in point, a virtually unknown Black guy with a Muslim sounding name just whopped the best the Republicans could come up with by over 100 Electoral votes
and also over 7 million popular votes in the last two Presidential elections
We are witnessing the slow spiraling death throws of the "national" Republican Party
The demographics of ever diverse and more educated population are the tidal wave
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Sparky
Trad climber
vagabond movin on
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Feb 17, 2016 - 12:15pm PT
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in other words, he has gotten a pretty easy ride
riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
The media has been in Hildabeast's pocket this entire time. Bernie has had far from an easy ride getting his message out. But his message is truly spoken and that resonance is spreading. Now that the media can't turn away from his numbers, I'm sure kitchen sinks will be thrown. Those sinks however are ineffective when people have already awakened.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 12:26pm PT
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That's a really ignorant post. No candidate in the last 20 years except for Obama, possibly, has had to put up with nearly as much right wing lies and innuendo as Hillary. No one.
Meanwhile, every one is feeling the Bern. Well, isn't that nice?
Faux news would gut him alive if he was the nominee: that hasn't happened yet. You guys thinking that a socialist is even remotely electable in this country need to seriously wake up.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 17, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
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The true threat if H wins the nomination,the Repub Pacs will move in and Swiftboat her ass all the way back to Whitewater.
Bernie will not run independent and us anti-repubs will have nothing.
Nothing but a spoiled brat in the WH named Trump.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 17, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
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I actually believe she is VERY lucky that Bernie himself has not run much of a campaign against her record.
Just wait until the GE.
Yep,it is Bernie that is unelectable..
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 17, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
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They will swift boat her ruthlessly, but good and bad, everyone has a firm opinion of her, and absent any major revelations, I strongly doubt that swift boat attacks would move the needle much. What more could be said that hasn't been said a million times already?
But the "Bernie is a Stalinist" attacks would be endless, and they haven't even started yet. People still have a very low opinion of socialists.
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