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10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Feb 16, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
Wilbeer, will you vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination?
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 16, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
Generally I agree with you Craig...

Hedges' "we're completely f*#ked" message is from the perspective of the disenfranchised members of our society, poor and working class people, homeless, etc. These members of our society get fuc#ed no matter who is in the White House. Seems like Jimmy Carter is the last president who paid any attention to the plight of working class people.

I don't think Hedges is too concerned about the privileged, bourgeois class that usually posts on the Taco Stand.
MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Feb 16, 2016 - 06:25pm PT
Just to interrupt - cleaning a new 11-bolt 5.11 at the Gorge today.

Eat it, Politards:

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 16, 2016 - 06:46pm PT
Just to interrupt - cleaning a new 11-bolt 5.11 at the Gorge today.

Yeah? So is that third bolt a Trump supporter?
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 16, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
That's awesome MisterE but Bernie wants to raise your minimum wage to $15/hr ;-)
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Feb 16, 2016 - 08:50pm PT
check out Bernie talking about the global economy and the banking system on Oct 1, 1998
[Click to View YouTube Video]

and then again on Feb 11, 2004

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Feb 16, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
Damn. Bernie is on point. But Greenspan gives not a single f*#k.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Feb 17, 2016 - 10:08am PT
10b4me,I am an anti-republican,therefore,yes I will vote for the Democratic candidate.

Not without a stern fight.

Like I said before,she did nothing,I repeat nothing, over here in her senate tenure.

The best thing she ever did here in New York State was;





Leave.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 17, 2016 - 10:19am PT
The Minimum Wage

Hasn't been raised in ~10 years
and let's admit the facts, if it was lower, people would be paid lower

The polls say 80% are for a higher Minimum wage,
who's stopping it from being raised?
Republicans

Republican Governors are signing laws to the effect that the Minimum wage can't be raised, part of the Koch Brother ALEC program

The Republicans will scream that raising the minimum wage will Kill Jobs!

It's a total lie, raising it does 2 things:
-It stimulates the economy-because more people have money to spend
-It creates jobs because the added demand by people spending money

Which is the exact opposite of what the Republicans want you to believe.
Even though they used it as a stimulus when they're in power, hypocrites.

Please, show me one fact checked article that proves me wrong.

Go Bernie, Go Hillary
Go America, fix our economy and put people back to work.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Feb 17, 2016 - 10:20am PT
I'm afraid Bernie's going to win the party and Trump the presidency.


I don't know, maybe that could be a good thing. Sometimes shaken not stirred is best.

Young people, mind the adage: Be careful what you wish for.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 17, 2016 - 10:21am PT
I agree with Obama
Trump WILL NOT BECOME our President
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Feb 17, 2016 - 10:26am PT
Yea, I'm not worried about Bernie being "old". The guy is still sharp and relatively healthy, as opposed to Scalia who looked pretty bad the years before he died of "natural causes".
dirtbag

climber
Feb 17, 2016 - 11:30am PT
HFCS, it will be a bumpy ride, but she is still polling well overall compared with Bernie. The primary process is still young, and Bernie has only had 1/1000 the scrutiny that Hillary has received: in other words, he has gotten a pretty easy ride. I think she'll pull through, probably as a stronger candidate in the end.
Norton

Social climber
Feb 17, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
I'm afraid Bernie's going to win the party and Trump the presidency.

Frutose,

no Republican, least of all Trump, can even get to close to the 270 Electoral votes
needed to become President

case in point, a virtually unknown Black guy with a Muslim sounding name just whopped the best the Republicans could come up with by over 100 Electoral votes
and also over 7 million popular votes in the last two Presidential elections

We are witnessing the slow spiraling death throws of the "national" Republican Party
The demographics of ever diverse and more educated population are the tidal wave
Sparky

Trad climber
vagabond movin on
Feb 17, 2016 - 12:15pm PT
in other words, he has gotten a pretty easy ride

riiiiiiiiiiiiight.


The media has been in Hildabeast's pocket this entire time. Bernie has had far from an easy ride getting his message out. But his message is truly spoken and that resonance is spreading. Now that the media can't turn away from his numbers, I'm sure kitchen sinks will be thrown. Those sinks however are ineffective when people have already awakened.
dirtbag

climber
Feb 17, 2016 - 12:26pm PT
That's a really ignorant post. No candidate in the last 20 years except for Obama, possibly, has had to put up with nearly as much right wing lies and innuendo as Hillary. No one.

Meanwhile, every one is feeling the Bern. Well, isn't that nice?

Faux news would gut him alive if he was the nominee: that hasn't happened yet. You guys thinking that a socialist is even remotely electable in this country need to seriously wake up.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Feb 17, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
The true threat if H wins the nomination,the Repub Pacs will move in and Swiftboat her ass all the way back to Whitewater.

Bernie will not run independent and us anti-repubs will have nothing.


Nothing but a spoiled brat in the WH named Trump.

wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Feb 17, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
I actually believe she is VERY lucky that Bernie himself has not run much of a campaign against her record.

Just wait until the GE.

Yep,it is Bernie that is unelectable..
dirtbag

climber
Feb 17, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
They will swift boat her ruthlessly, but good and bad, everyone has a firm opinion of her, and absent any major revelations, I strongly doubt that swift boat attacks would move the needle much. What more could be said that hasn't been said a million times already?

But the "Bernie is a Stalinist" attacks would be endless, and they haven't even started yet. People still have a very low opinion of socialists.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Feb 17, 2016 - 01:16pm PT
"absent any major revelations"


How about today's?

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187



Talks out the side of her mouth.

They will keep coming ,major or not.
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