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Jorroh
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Feb 12, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
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"but it's quite a leap to say it would work here"
Why so?
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Feb 12, 2016 - 05:43pm PT
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pyro: I'm sure that I speak for all sentient beings when I say that your contributions to this and every other thread have been remarkable...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Feb 12, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
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Hahahaha, nothing like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 12, 2016 - 08:24pm PT
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Hahahaha, nothing like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest!
Stewart you must be OFFENDED..
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 12, 2016 - 08:32pm PT
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Dude, Clinton is not a right winger. That graph is stupid.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 12, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
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She's a pro-israel hawk....and bought and paid...blah blah blah
Kissinger mentorship anyone?
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Feb 12, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
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pyro: the only thing about you that offends me is that we're members of the same species.
I'm still waiting for you to express a thought that could logically be expected to be formed in an adult brain.
Maybe you should stop spending all of your spare time buggering goats. They don't like it, and it doesn't seem to help you think clearly.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 12, 2016 - 08:51pm PT
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She's a moderate with a legacy of compromises, which is not a bad thing. More hawkish than some but hardly a neocon, and in favor of a lot of progressive domestic policies. She's not certainly not a right winger, and any of the other right wingers bunched near her on that chart would rightly laugh at being grouped with her.
It just looks like some tidy little graph that an ardent sanders supporter put together for spin and giggles and to show how horrible she is. I.e., it's a stupid graph.
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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Feb 12, 2016 - 08:56pm PT
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DB, I said as much when I first posted it. The point is that they all stink worse than week-old garbage to me, besides the crazy old man with the millenial vote.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Feb 12, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
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Larry I was merely trying to point out the model that most closely matched what Sanders would like to emulate, not making a point about how Scandinavia is like the US. I'm not sure what your point is.
And Larry would point out that Italy or France would be a more realistic model. Even Scandinavia - with a vastly more homogeneous society than the melting pot of the USA - is a poor model, because most of their economic growth took place before the enactment of their welfare state in the 1930's. After that, growth slowed dramatically.
John
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Feb 12, 2016 - 10:37pm PT
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John E get's it.
Another thing to consider is the cost of enacting these social welfare programs as a stock market bubble collapse looms and layoffs are happening in much of the country. Qualcomm laid off 15% recently.
Plus if the fed ever raises the prime, and it will eventually as John has pointed out before, the service on the debt will consume Bernie's dreams.
I really do admire Bernie's honesty and passion. I am just afraid that the Clinton grifters will satisfy their lust for money and power.
Money derived from their political influence, which is obviously for sale.
Bloomberg, Biden and even the poser Kerry are looking good in light of FBI investigations
And BTW. Rachel Maddow, a moderator at the Dem debate, goes up and hugs each candidate afterwords.
Ever see a Fox moderator do that at a debate?
For democrats there is no bigger enemy on Earth than fellow citizens who are republicans. And I am not a republican.
EDIT. I double posted the same text and just deleted the redundant one ;-)
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 13, 2016 - 06:54am PT
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Alright, my point, again, was to show an example of socialism, because Guyman apparently thinks there is no difference between socialism and communism. Knock yourselves out, though.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 13, 2016 - 07:25am PT
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Rachel Maddow, a moderator at the Dem debate, goes up and hugs each candidate afterwords.
Ever see a Fox moderator do that at a debate?
She also asked tough, intelligent questions. Fox moderators do their hugging daily, on the air.
For democrats there is no bigger enemy on Earth than fellow citizens who are republicans.
Silly. I guess you don't listen to talk radio, where Republicans get their news. Talk radio will determine the GOP nominee. Trump didn't create them, they were already there waiting for someone to speak their language.
I have many moderate Republican friends. Most are horrified by the crop offered them.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Feb 15, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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It's a matter of priorities. Do we want to fund endless warfare for the benefit of an oligarchy, or do we fund education, healthcare, infrastructure and good jobs for Americans?
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
-- Did a Republican say that?
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