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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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May 30, 2015 - 11:43am PT
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Hi Joe.... I'm with you (or with the authors). Give it a break. That goes thru my mind everytime there is another disaster.
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Joron
Trad climber
Hoodland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2015 - 11:48am PT
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Hey Mike. I agree, but given the money involved, it seems unlikely.
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 30, 2015 - 11:57am PT
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Nah. Might as well close Yosemite.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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May 30, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
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If people want to risk it, let 'em risk it. No one going up there can claim ignorance of the danger.
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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May 30, 2015 - 12:04pm PT
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Any question posited upon the verb "should" goes nowhere in my philosophy and world view, e.g. "How often should one change their underwear?' has as many "right answers" as "Should Everest be closed?"
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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May 30, 2015 - 12:08pm PT
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What?, how?, when?, why?, by who?
and then what ?
Post armed guards?
Seems like a needed revenue source,
Give what a rest?
Some may see it as a sacred resting place but others will always want to try to climb the big one even if it is not the big one by any stretch . . . .
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Joron
Trad climber
Hoodland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2015 - 12:15pm PT
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TWP. Let me rephrase for you. Does anyone think its a good idea? It's obvious the chance of this happening is probably zero. There are other peaks that are off limits though....
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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May 30, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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"Good idea" is just as subjective as "should."
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 30, 2015 - 01:25pm PT
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At least give it the rest of the year off!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 30, 2015 - 02:53pm PT
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People pretty much stopped climbing Everest a couple decades ago.
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Lassitude 33
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May 30, 2015 - 03:36pm PT
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I'm joining in pledging to not climb Everest.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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May 30, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
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The powers that be should only allow permits to climb it if the teams are focused on trash removal. Some agreement to bring out an additional 'x' number of kilos of trash per team member.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Mexico City, D.F.
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May 30, 2015 - 03:42pm PT
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I'd say close it down, or at least make guiding there a criminal offense. Unfortunately the Nepali government seems to consider it a source of income.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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May 30, 2015 - 03:47pm PT
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Rather impressive how lame are the arguments presented in the two linked articles. I don't think it should be closed, but I'm confident I could make a better case for this than these two sloppy thinkers / writers.
A change I would support: increase the climbing fee by ~$5k/person and put this into a fund for cleaning up the trash & dead bodies. But given that Nepal is notoriously corrupt and looks upon this mountain as a cash cow, the chance that this would happen and that any such money would actually be spent on cleanup seem very low.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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May 30, 2015 - 04:21pm PT
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Somehow the conga line of guided rich folk needs to stop. However it is a source of revenue for an area that has little else going for it, and we have shown time and again that we don't know how to preserve this earth and compensate the locals for their loss of access to their now lost livelihood.
Wild elephants, tuna, rain forests, and many more examples have never really gotten to a satisfactory situation where we actually save something for the good of the world and didn't end up screwing the locals.
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jstan
climber
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May 30, 2015 - 04:30pm PT
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The Erickson Aircrane takes six minutes to climb to 11,000 meters so it could service Everest even in very brief weather windows. Its maximum load is 20,000 pounds so I'm guessing it could lift one ton off the summit of Everest. I watched one take on ten tons of water in a fifty mph crosswind without moving more than a few inches. Given a few cargo nets, one could clean Everest off in just a few days. It could transport teams of sherpa to specific sites and recover both them and the trash, a couple of sites per flight.
What a great and productive adventure.
Huge implications for Nepal's income and economy.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 30, 2015 - 05:17pm PT
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An early version before Erickson took over and improved their performance managed level flight at 36K feet.
(from 60s or 70s not sure exact date) The Sikorsky Skycrane holds the FAI turbine powered helicopter altitude record of 28,743 ft. (8,761 m) carrying a 2,000 KG payload.
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