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Nov 13, 2017 - 10:55am PT
Mike & Crager, what is with all that white stuff?

It's the stuff that keeps life interesting! As mentioned above, I started with an '84 Stumpster with 3 rings and dropped the big ring in the mid 90's due to the Techy McTechy tech stuff I encountered in the N. Rockies and the early Gnar Gnarlson of the early freeride days in SEBC and then to SS only (primarily on wagon wheels) for a decade outa pure boredom. I got a fancy 1x on my UPPB - ultra posh plastic bike - and for me too, there is absolutely no looking back.
</Rant>My 50yo body loves this new stuff but I have to say, the direction of 'growing the sport' for the masses over the last decade or so is saddening. All this dumbing down so folks NEVER have to walk and work out the moves is blasphemous to the spirit, like chipping to you climbers. The flow trail devo is an unnecessary scar and really isn't mountain biking, it is BMX in the woods. But, I am lucky b/c up here we are slow and more reluctant to change so just as folks are realizing the lameness of the flow, it is just beginning here and we have a lot less of it. Flow trails are also only in the front country around here as the other primary users,: elk, deer, moose, wolves, etc. aren't pushing for more flow these days. At least we have that going for us! <Rant/>

Mountain climber
Nov 13, 2017 - 11:25am PT
Who needs a bike when you can go 50 miles on a skateboard? lol


Nov 14, 2017 - 06:36am PT
White stuff? I asked the same question... My partner told me either you ride it or you don't ride – subtext being HTFU. : \

Hitting trail with a climbing gym owner today. Because riding MTBs is way better than pulling plastic. Or standing on an electrified skateboard. It's what all the washed-up rockjocks who don't have the sack for BASE do. Inline wheelchair FTW.

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Nov 14, 2017 - 07:14am PT
Cragar,I agree about “flow”trails,we have people over here raking singletrack wide and dumbing down some technical sections.
We have issues.

That same energy could be used to learn how to ride a mountain bike.

Nov 14, 2017 - 09:46am PT
Hey Wilbeer, I do not get it and have argued for decades to separate mountain biking from bmx or trick riding types of bicycling and the terra differences between the 2. You don't need a mountain to do back flips, can-cans, etc. however, you do if you want endless techy miles of singletrack and a feeling of being out there. Our moto trails are narrower and do less enviro damage than the single crazily built up flow trail we have. We have to bike parks being built in town and will quench the thirst of the jumpers and maybe some of our front country trails will narrow out but maybe not. The OutdoorLifestylers have been landing here like pigeonshit on a steeple and they screw up the riding areas enough!!

Edit: Yeah Wilbeer the energy/effort is always best when used to learn tech, skill and processes - aka, the old fashioned way. This is a foundation to climbing among other things but in the modern climate of want/need it fast, I believe learning the art/basics/nuances of any given philosophy and activity are evaporating in our modern society. I blame it on Google but really it is the current EGO that is constantly marinated in the internets.

Dave Tully SanDimas,California
Nov 14, 2017 - 10:22am PT
at the San Dimas Canyon boulder for a little burn
at the San Dimas Canyon boulder for a little burn
Credit: DM88T

Yes, my bike is blocking the descent route, but I can't get up the cre...
Yes, my bike is blocking the descent route, but I can't get up the creek side routes anyway.
Credit: DM88T
looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Nov 15, 2017 - 02:58pm PT

OC Bike Garage doing the build on my 5010

Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
Nov 15, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
If you were wondering how strong the new generation of mbike carbon wheels are, watch this video of Danny MacAskill trying to destroy a set. The real abuse starts about 1:50 into the video. Amazing!

Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Nov 15, 2017 - 06:15pm PT

You ever take it off any sweet jumps? :-)
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Nov 15, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
Hey bike dudes....

I need a front and rear 700x35 commuter style set of wheels with tires and that spikey gear thingy on the rear... not disc brakes.

Any of you disposable income types upgrade your beater and have a set of these laying around? Will buy (cheap!!) trade, or barter.

Let me know
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
Nov 17, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
Sketchy, that dude has had too much coffee.

Trad climber
under the sea
Nov 18, 2017 - 08:42am PT
I found this entertaining...


Trad climber
under the sea
Nov 18, 2017 - 08:47am PT
On another note...

Anyone here ride DVO suspension? My bud Tom Rogers is their designer and looks to be doing some cool and unique things there. Check em out if unfamiliar.


Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 18, 2017 - 11:49am PT
I knew a red headed bikeee named Tom Rogers...Same guy?

Nov 18, 2017 - 01:32pm PT
@SC Seagoat - You're amazing!
Credit: dfrost7
@Rockermike - fantastic piece of writing

Here's my little buddy. Living downtown Long Beach on 1st means parking is complicated, if you get home past 4:30.

climber a single wide......
Nov 20, 2017 - 10:44am PT
In August, I finally built up a Dura -Ace bike. Had Hed Ardennes Black wheels.. married it all to a new Bianchi frame. Below my inaugural ride (hence the big smile). Rig is made for distance. Hope I am up to the task.
Credit: Sewellymon

Nov 20, 2017 - 11:44am PT
Miles optional, smiles mandatory. Nice work, S-mon. 👍🏼

matty: Props to your friend; DVO is making positive inroads. On my radar.

Russ, good luck...

Still leery of carbon fiber after MacAskill's rim destruction vid? This might bolster your confidence...

Hot car exhaust notwithstanding...
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