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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 14, 2015 - 02:59pm PT
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Kick ass!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 14, 2015 - 03:16pm PT
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The Angel Of Death is Lt. Col. Christine Mau, the first female pilot to fly the F-35A.
Talk about kick ass!!
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 14, 2015 - 03:53pm PT
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WBraun
climber
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May 14, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
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F-35A is a piece of sh!t aircraft against the Sukhoi Su-35S Flanker-E .....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2015 - 05:56pm PT
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Wow, those people were feeling it! HaHaHaHa!
Werner is right. The F-35 is under-powered, un-maneuverable, un-reliable,
and over-priced. Other than that it is great! It is more of the same from
the crankloon Air Force generals who think one plane can do everything.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 14, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
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I bow down to your jet fighter expertise.
Strangely, we've never had another fighter with any weaknesses.
And the scariest part is that our adversaries have never produced a fighter with any weaknesses.
Gimme a break fellas.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2015 - 06:29pm PT
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Crankster, flattery will get you nowhere. I suppose you think Air Force
generals have a phukking clue? They've been buying the same stoopid planes
from their buddies at Northrop, Gen Dynamics, etc., since the 60's which is
when they decided, in their estimable omniscience, that they could spec a
plane that can do everything. The list of lemons is unbelievable:
B-1 Bonehead
F-111A Dorkvaard
F-15A POS They managed to rectify the original design, somewhat.
F-16 Oh, you think it is great? The original design WAS great but the
crankloons insisted it be hung with every manner of external bullcrap AND
they had to increase the wing by 20% to carry all that crap which meant its
maneuverability and speed dropped by 25-30%!
The one plane that did make it through their gauntlet of stoopidity was the
A-10 which they fought like hell AGAINST because they didn't want to be in
the business of CAS. That's Close Air Support for you experts.
E, I apologise for jacking yer great thread!
"Please, sir, could we have some more metal?"
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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May 14, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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It's actually somewhat on topic Reilly. The whole military and loon connection. That song is about Josef Mengele, the infamous Nazi "Doctor" at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp. Right up there with Hitler in piece of sh#t status.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 14, 2015 - 06:53pm PT
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Reilly...I thought you were a Navy guy...? Why all the Air Force hate...?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 14, 2015 - 07:09pm PT
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nobody wants piss off "The"?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2015 - 07:17pm PT
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RJ, cause the crankloon AF turds tried to force the F-111 down our throats! Can you imagine
that POS on a flight deck? But to show the AF up we brought along the F-14, which was
almost as bad as the F-111, but at least it was ours! Of course America thinks it was great,
thanks to Tom Cruise. :-)
It's a damn good thing that neither the F-15 or the F-14 ever got into it with the Mig-29
cause it woulda kicked their azzes.
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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May 14, 2015 - 07:18pm PT
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That was great! I never knew that evangelicals could rock so hard.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2015 - 07:21pm PT
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Yes, it's called I Hate The Pentagon (and all O-7's and above) You got a problem with that?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 14, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
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zBrown respectively/fully submits a problem. WTF is an O-7?
Like pawn to king 4?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
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Sorta. They're people who have vastly inflated opinions of themselves - generals or admirals.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 14, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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I got it, the military version of pawn promotion.
-Chess rules
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 14, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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Reilly vastly underestimates the power of our combined Air Forces.
We fear no one in the sky.
True enough, every plane has it's strengths and weaknesses.
I'd like to see anyone here design something better. That means you too Reilly. Why aren't you fixing this sh#t if you're such a pro?
Edit: Easier to bitch than to improve eh?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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May 14, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
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Death Cap . . . Amanita phalloides.
Beware the veil remnant.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - May 14, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
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death metal louis armstrong is always a good one
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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May 14, 2015 - 08:03pm PT
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Sh#t yeah E! That's awesome.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 14, 2015 - 08:14pm PT
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Survival, I never claimed to be an aeronautical engineer, but I respectfully submit to you to
prove any of my assertions wrong. You will not succeed. After the fall of the Soviet Union
W Germany formed a wing of ex- E German Mig-29's. In exercises with F-15's and F-16's
they gave as good as they got, and those were older model Migs. The US has not flown a
true optimized air superiority fighter since the F-100 and that is totally due to idiotic generals
and admirals who scoffed at John Boyd (being ex-AF you do know about John Boyd, right?)
and his E-M Theory. We rule the air now by default, not by design. If the Russians had the
money I have no doubt they would rule the skies. They don't design planes to do everything
like we do. There's no free lunch. If you want to further this discussion I am quite happy to,
but please bring something to the table other than sarcasm and condescension.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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May 14, 2015 - 08:29pm PT
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So-----Re Reilly's mention:
But to show the AF up we brought along the F-14, which was
almost as bad as the F-111, but at least it was ours! Of course America thinks it was great,
thanks to Tom Cruise. :-)
I don't know where else I can ever tell this tale on ST!
For a short time, my early 1980’s climbing pal was an Ex-Navy fighter pilot, with experience at the end of the Vietnam war with the F14 Phantom, which he described as “ an air force jet, that was never designed to land on a carrier deck, or carry a heavy weapons load.”
So, he catapults off a carrier jet in a rough sea at night in a F14.
The F14 electronic display went out, and a short while later he loses all power.
However, he had been trained to start poking at the right buttons, & just before he hit the ocean, the displays came back.
At this point of the story, he gave me a big smile, and said:
Luckily! I was right side up!
He went on to be a member of the Navy Blue Angels before we had our climbing adventures.
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couchmaster
climber
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May 15, 2015 - 05:35am PT
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Hey E, I didn't see any airplanes in that vid, what the hell are all these guys talking about?
ps, cracked me up though, thanks for sharing.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2015 - 05:48am PT
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my thread got jacked!.....too funny
I think that I should have my own metal thread
proceed
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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death angel is f*#kin awesome!
like slayer with phil anselmo on the vocals
back on track
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 15, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
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Geez Fritz, it was the F4 Phantom, not F14, and it was originally designed for the Navy; entered service in 1960 and was then adopted by the the Marines and then the Air Force......
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 16, 2015 - 07:32am PT
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Tough room!
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WBraun
climber
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May 16, 2015 - 08:06am PT
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Where the Russians fail is where they always fail... in production.
This is the type of classic stupid American nationalism response at work.
When Americans first went to semiconductor solid state radars in their fighter jets the Russians still were using vacuum tube technology in theirs.
Stupid thick headed arrogant Americans thought they were advanced as usual.
They completely forgot the superiority of the saturation level of Tubes over semiconductor.
Thus the American radar would overlaod and succumb to interference where the Russian units did not.
Only after capturing one of the Russian planes did the stupid Americans realize WTF was going on.
Zombies who are running nationalism all the time in their fertile minds will succumb to poor fund of knowledge ......
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2015 - 08:46am PT
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more dethklok
way more entertaining than talking about airplanes
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overwatch
climber
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May 17, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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Per the op that is pretty funny, they would fit right in. I love Slayer but you better have your head on a swivel at one of those shows.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2015 - 09:14am PT
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Manegarm at one time was at the forefront of black metal
here's their new one....i kinda like it
Gojira is pretty well known and awesome!
i remember that bathory was a band from the early 90's the beginnings of viking metal
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jun 16, 2015 - 02:10pm PT
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crankloon is an air force general? say it ain't so, Reilly.
we're doomed.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 16, 2015 - 02:28pm PT
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What's weird is that you can actually weave the two separate parts of this thread into one.
Iron Maiden is maybe not a total death metal band, but they are certainly one of the most successful heavy metal bands in history (and as popular today as 25 years ago).
But Iron Maiden's front man/lead singer Bruce Dickinson is just as heavily involved in aviation as in music. He's a working commercial 757 and 737 pilot, a Type Rating instructor and Technical instructor on the 737, and founded and runs a respected aircraft maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) company in the UK.
Someone else can post Iron Maiden videos, but here's one of him discussing the intersection of the two worlds. (But they didn't ask him whether American Generals were crankloons or not.)
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overwatch
climber
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Jun 16, 2015 - 04:01pm PT
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Iron Maiden, Dickinson in particular, apparently pissed off Sharon Osborne at one of the recent Ozfest. They had just started playing "Trooper", I believe and she had the power cut to the stage and came up on the p.a. talking about them disrespecting ozzy, blah, blah, blah.
The crew got the stage power back up and Iron Maiden was still playing the song and hasn't missed a note, seemingly. Pretty cool display of professionalism under stress.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Jun 16, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
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I've hung out a lot in the boonies of Cabeza Prieta NWR, which is just south of the Goldwater Gunnery Range in SW AZ.
I got to watch them dogfight day and night. It was pretty cool. The place is littered with shell casings. An A-10 casing is big enough to drink coffee out of.
On the east side it was mainly F-16's. The dogfights only took 30 seconds or so. On the west side it was the Harriers, and those were LOUD.
Kind of weird to be in such a wild place and have all that going on above you. It was mostly silent, and as far as I could tell, the noise didn't really affect anything.
One time 2 A-10's flew very close to me, very low. The second one came around and flew inverted over me. I always wondered if they saw me and were checking me out. It seemed like it, but I dunno.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2015 - 11:22am PT
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Iron Maiden is one of my alltime favorite bands
early metal with iron age themes
Revelation and Sun and steel are great ones as is that whole alblum...Piece of mind
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overwatch
climber
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Jun 18, 2015 - 12:12pm PT
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Love that song, E. They are one of the few metal bands that can drive a pit punk rock style. Dickinson is basicly dressed like a rock climber with the tights and socks. That's a lot of hair, though.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Jun 18, 2015 - 01:12pm PT
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i adore death.
all of my life,
i court her.
someday i'll be hers.
and i gleefully anticipate
that day.
though i do not yet wish it.
it is a privilege
that i must earn.
no shortcuts.
daily i'm just shy
of a self-inflicted
gunshot wound to the head.
that'd be simple.
like a trip to the shiter.
no. not me.
no suicide.
i wear life like a badge.
someone will have to peel it from me.
while i kick and spit.
though i like to get close.
to her.
death.
i do.
she is quite attractive in
her mystery.
she is mine.
poor thing.
she can't stand straight
in my company.
she shakes in the knees
and her vagina weeps.
but i do not
engage her intimately.
i just tease.
because you gotta leave
the please unanswered.
and daily she
beckons.
and i show up.
and blow her.
kisses.
and she begs of me, more.
like real copulation.
it is then that i disappear
into the storm.
a drop of refrain
among a billion drops of rain.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
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another one from Valkenrag
from poland....slavic vikingr
love the blood splatterd all over everybody about half way thru
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 21, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
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King of Asgard was a favorite from a few years back
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2015 - 07:58pm PT
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forefather is pretty awesome
never play live shows
anglo saxon metal themes....2 guys in the band
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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Jun 25, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
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New music from The Black Dahlia Murder. One of my favorite bands. Full album September 18!
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Jul 14, 2015 - 03:50pm PT
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i must have been out to lunch in May when this thread was started.
Reilly, "crankloon", i can't stop laughing at that one.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]from the first generation of viking death metal bands
Blood Fire Death
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 20, 2015 - 11:32am PT
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Tsjuder - Sacrifice (Bathory cover) (Live At Rockefeller In Oslo, Norway 2005) Norwegian Apocalypse
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Jul 22, 2015 - 08:13pm PT
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i got this sound track
it plays on those days
whence i make wild stabs
at wellness and at being.
panicked and eratic,
in my interpretation of life
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2015 - 08:32am PT
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another favorite from the piece of mind album
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Aug 29, 2015 - 11:53am PT
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F22 Raptor. Too bad they stopped making it.
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2015 - 11:11am PT
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another good one from Althelstan and Wulfstan
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 7, 2015 - 10:25am PT
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hey marlow that video you just posted is one of my favorite ones
heres another
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2015 - 05:31am PT
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danish black metal band mercyfull fate
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Nov 11, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
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WS
May 14, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
F-35A is a piece of sh!t aircraft against the Sukhoi Su-35S Flanker-E .....
Interesting assessment, ducky.
Two f 15 's have ever been lost in combat, one by AAA and one by a Sam SE-2 in desert storm in January, 1991, involving the loss of one crew member
There has never been one shot down by opposing aircraft since they were first deployed in the 1970's in all air forces, including Israel and Saudi Arabia. ( 100+ victories)
There are 51 Su-35s' in active service and 48 more ordered. None has seen combat or shot down an enemy aircraft. The Russians are offering them for sale to virtually any takers including Indonesia, China, India, and Brasil. No takers. Wonder why?
the biggest losses are f15's running into each other and training exercises. In fact, not even an A-10 has ever been lost to enemy aircraft. ( a buddy of mine flew both in his 20 year career) Makes you wonder why the f22 was developed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_F-15_losses
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overwatch
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Dec 10, 2015 - 10:09pm PT
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Not really my type of music (more punk rock and classic heavy metal) but I love how you guys just plow right through the thread hijacker dorks
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2015 - 08:45pm PT
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and soon the world will cease to be
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2016 - 07:53am PT
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valkenrag is the best new euro metal band in ages
melodic death metal where the protagonist is dead or dying
this sh#t is badass
band is from poland
the warriors beating on shields and axes is a cool touch too
EE
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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E are you on this thread?
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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Interesting E...listening to metal? You're the old friend I've been looking for..so old school don't do facebook. Can you message me? V
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Well will wonders never cease !
I've seen your comments else-where LA woman,
I have a reputation of being what you said but I do know of him who you look for
But no idea how to find him.
The smokin, duck, Zenphool, - Werner Braun - would he know of the old rock-codgers that hung with EE?
E into hard core? (to bad;))
there is also a punk rock thread and one Grateful Dead thread I attend.
There is a blues thread I just bumped to the top of the page by posting to it - I see you've learned that trick.
Classical, and bluegrass, are represented and just recently Deep House Music?
yikes, it has deep base and -club me over the head- repitive base notes at that..
club music for . . . . .?
Who dat?
Music threads are a dime a dozen but the ones on this taco stand are stand out, if a bit dated. . .
Edit , after checking the post looking for . ..
WAIT A MINUTE!
IS THIS E, the E.E?
And hey flip flop!
now for those that appreciate a look through the screen door, whatever that means. . .
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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E, what else is going on other than metal? Can you please email me. Someone else is claiming they're you :( V
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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Gnome, yes E is the EE or EME or Sprung or Hottie or Stonemaster and many other things...just trying to make contact after 30 years.
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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Perhaps not.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I'd like to see anyone here design something better. That means you too Reilly. Why aren't you fixing this sh#t if you're such a pro?
Edit: Easier to bitch than to improve eh?
F-22
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E
Ice climber
mogollon rim
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2016 - 06:02am PT
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the one that started it all for me
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Buggerville
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May 25, 2016 - 12:23am PT
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E, Thanks for the awesome thread...a year's worth of a genre I never knew existed.
Enjoy many of the bands and others...uh, well, idk...
It's been nice connecting. Keep post'in up brah.
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Buggerville
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May 26, 2016 - 01:37am PT
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Fram!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 17, 2016 - 03:23am PT
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Okay so shoot me
Merry Christmas in July from NYC, 1982 straight to you
[Click to View YouTube Video]if you google "The Big Take-Over" you'll find
Jack Rabid and his fanzine all things roots punk. ..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Takeover
That is - until recently when a fusion reggae good time band. . . .a new band of the name
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The Big Takeover from new Paltz, NY
where ther'. Are some cliffs to climb I hear.
More of the "soft took off"
http://youtu.be/ZM6xF9n_VZ0.
That's all just putting both about here bump wise
And Marlow ?
I've been surreptitiously taking pictures of random people's hands for years.
( Not An Original idea, think clasped hands & Rosary) ;~Df
When I went digital from film I went crazier than I am now -with redundant pictures
of obscure lakes & beaches . . .
of pictures of the young & old hands that summer brought to those places
This started after the kids , the other life guards , not really my charges,
were reportedly seen getting high while on duty. I was then told to sit in the ceremonial life guard stand, that sat front and center of this beach club. The spot had a commanding view
So I was good at my job, and though I never saw any 'reefers' the cameras' focus was always
Set to close up, and almost all the pictures were of hands .
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 28, 2016 - 06:41pm PT
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They love metal in Russia. I wonder if that's a coincidence?
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 28, 2016 - 08:21pm PT
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 28, 2016 - 08:23pm PT
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Amanita muscaria (fly agaric) poisinous strain from Kinney Lake, Alpine County
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 28, 2016 - 08:25pm PT
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Saw Iron Maiden at Memorial Auditorium in 1983. Run to the Hills!
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climber bob
Social climber
maine
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Sep 29, 2016 - 03:03am PT
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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I must be a punker at heart - I get goose bumps listening to and watching that bad brains vid. thx for posting Gnome.
But - that ain't death metal. still OK to post. :)
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cybele
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Sep 10, 2017 - 04:39am PT
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Marlow, that Carst you posted sounds much like some of the pieces I recorded years ago on a CD project KaliYuga -- particularly the tracks where I used a detuned bass guitar played with a cello bow. I never knew quite how to classify my genre. It was pretty much all dark ambient, made with no computers, no EDM "beats," a lot of drone characteristic though other aspects on some of the tracks too. You probably would like some of it. I gave up playing music intensively when I got heavily into climbing. But I still really like listening to stuff like that when I'm driving a long road trip in the dark of night. Those yellow road paint dashes flipping past and dark ambient drone music just totally work together.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Sep 11, 2017 - 10:39am PT
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cybele: If you have recorded it, post it....
The Pogues - Turkish Song Of The Damned
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I come old friend from hell tonight
Across the rotting sea
Nor the nails of the cross
Nor the blood of christ
Can bring you help this eve
The dead have come to claim a debt from thee
They stand outside your door
Four score and three
Did you keep a watch for the dead man's wind
Did you see the woman with the comb in her hand
Wailing away on the wall on the strand
As you danced to the turkish song of the damned
You remember when the ship went down
You left me on the deck
The captain's corpse jumped up
And threw his arms around my neck
For all these years I've had him on my back
This debt cannot be paid with all your jack
And as I sit and talk to you I see your face go white
This shadow hanging over me
Is no trick of the light
The spectre on my back will soon be free
The dead have come to claim a debt from thee
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cybele
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Sep 15, 2017 - 08:21pm PT
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There are other versions online that don't have the Vikings show videos added...but it's kinda fun this way
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Marlow I never made videos of the stuff. I am right now trying to find it on MP3.com where I uploaded the tracks years ago. They've changed that site so much.
I'm so glad Shane MacGowan finally got his mouth worked on.
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cybele
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Oct 25, 2017 - 04:25pm PT
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Check out the first track Storm Warning.
These guys are probably SLC's best local metal band, and excellent live!
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Deathblow "Prognosis Negative" single track video. WARNING: THIS VIDEO IS NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH!! SICK SICK SICK!
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"Demolition Deployment" earlier this year. These guys were excellent live last week, playing again Nov 1. Making SLC a better place. The audio track is pretty muddy but this version gives their live flavor pretty well. Lighting starts out dim but brightens up and gets flashy when the music picks up. There are other versions, cleaner audio right from Cd.
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cybele
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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And of course, Deathblow opens for the other best band in SLC...Visigoth!
Revenant King
"Your life will slake the soil's thirst for sacrifice and blooded stone"
That's a great line!
"And none shall weep..."
I like the Amon Amarth-ish instrumental and the whole song.
This video sound sucks-- there's MUCH better sound quality out there on their various videos, but this one's a fun live vid. This guy's got load of stage charisma. They're excellent live in SLC with their local fan following who knows all the songs.[Click to View YouTube Video]
Mammoth Rider
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Iron Brotherhood
(the anthem song)
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He's also associated with Gallowbraid and Caladan Brood, both excellent projects
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 20, 2018 - 01:41pm PT
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During WW 2, Operation Bagraition, a Soviet Offensive against German Army Group Center, was considerably larger, more successful and more destructive than any offensive conducted by the U.S. The Russian Army had to bear the brunt of Germany's military might. We had our hands full dealing with just a small part of it.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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May 11, 2018 - 03:58pm PT
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 11, 2018 - 12:18pm PT
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Reilly and then Werner called it 3 years back.
All US F-35's grounded. All RAF planes as well. It make you wonder, given the complexities, how easy it would be to take these down.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45827795
"The temporary suspension of all F-35 flights is an embarrassment given the extraordinary cost of this frequently troubled programme. But the problem has already been identified as faulty fuel tubes. Once these are checked or replaced the aircraft will be back in the air.
The F-35 is only just entering service but it is already the most expensive weapons programme of all time.
It will equip the US Air Force and Marine Corps as well as several of Washington's allies. It represents a step-change in capability but the F-35's complexity has inevitably thrown up problems."
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