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WBraun

climber
May 4, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
Toyota, Nissan and other manufacturers sell cheaper UV's in other countries. Too bad you can't get them here.

Of course you can't get them here.

America only sells smart cars because we're too stooopid to drive a simple car ..... :-)
tolman_paul

Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
May 4, 2015 - 06:15pm PT
We had a 2000 rav 4, it was a decent car but it's important to realize that is what they are, a unibody car with AWD. As I recall fwy mileage was ~25, mixed city 20. I really didn't find it significantly more capable than a front wheel drive or rear wheel drive car with winter tires.

If you want a vehicle that has more room than your typical compact sedan and has the ground clearance for off road jaunts, then you should really consider a true SUV i.e. 4-runner, or a pickup.

Think of it as a sedan that has a hatchback instead of a trunk.

IMHO a better option would be a wagon where you can drop the rear seats and have somewhat reasonable sleeping room.
caughtinside

Social climber
Oakland, CA
May 4, 2015 - 09:05pm PT
Used element?
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 4, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
Dunno the year you're looking out, but here's a comparo of specs for 2004s (personal bias, since it's what I have):

http://www.kbb.com/compare-cars/specs/2004-honda-cr_v-2701-vs-2005-hyundai-santa-fe-952-vs-2004-subaru-forester-3421-vs-2004-toyota-rav4-3540/

And it's easy to edit what you're comparing if you're interested in different years.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 4, 2015 - 10:07pm PT
Men are pretty much doomed: everything's either a girl's car or overcompensation.

Fwiw, I'm proud to drive a girl's car (and my wife's happy about it, too ;) ).
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
May 7, 2015 - 08:21am PT
And the verdict is.....????





Susan
couchmaster

climber
May 7, 2015 - 08:41am PT


I'm still laughing at the DMT/Lady Scarlett thing. Youse guys crack me up!

LS -look at these 3, Rav4, Honda CRV, Suburu Forester. Pick the one that makes you happy and you'll be good to go. I've done that very thing twice, last one was CRV, this one the Subby. I once brought 5 guys and all our gear back from Yos in the CRV. The Subby will carry 3 and their crap MAX. I'm getting 29 mpg on it (last weekend, just me and a haul bag) But it compensates for the lack of cargo space in other respects and I've been happy with it.

tolman_paul

Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
May 7, 2015 - 08:58am PT
There are no good Awd wagons imo

Wrong


Handles like the finest of sedans, uber smooth ride so you can drive for hours w/o fatique and kick the rear seats down and there is plenty of room for two to sleep.
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
May 7, 2015 - 09:16am PT
Just got an outback and am loving it so far. Good gas mileage (32hwy, 26city, 28-29mixed), full time AWD, 8.7in clearance, and will sleep 2 6' people comfortably in back with seats folded down. Forrester was not as nice inside and not as comfy to slep in.
tolman_paul

Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
May 7, 2015 - 11:31am PT
There are many things not to like about Mercedes, but IMHO nobody builds a wagon with better ride quality and the 4matics are quite capable on snow and ice. There is something to be said for driving 4-5 hours and arriving at your location w/o fatique or cricks in your back.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
May 7, 2015 - 01:36pm PT
Still haven't had a chance to lay (lie?) down in the back of my CRV, but fwiw I'm 6', have the driver's seat raised all the way, and still have at least 4" of air between my head and the roof.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
May 7, 2015 - 03:49pm PT
There are no good Awd wagons imo


Look up Holden.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/21/1058639728407.html

Too bad all the best vehicles are not available in the USA
ExtraBlue

Ice climber
the ford VT
May 7, 2015 - 03:55pm PT
My father had one.
He got hit on a lot by gay men when he drove it.
He sold it and bought a truck.
True story.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 7, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
DMT, I guess we have different reading comprehension. My first take was
that his dad got hit on a parking lot by gay men. I didn't think they
drive too badly, usually. I couldn't figger out what the Rav4 had to do
with that. And I do own a pink shirt but I'm careful where I wear it;
Pinedale, WY I figger I'm good to wear it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 7, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
I'm touched by yer concern for my well-being! But as I told the 'nice'
Canadian Immigration officer, who seemed to think I was trying to sneak in
to stay, "Look, I'm ONLY here to see the damned in-laws, OK? If you want
to send me back to Chicago then we'll both be happy."
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
DINGUS!!!! What are you doing stealing my UN!!!??!!!

this deserves some penalty slack fer SURE!!!!

just you wait...!

Oh man...this is what I get for being busy at work!

BTW, Raves can be cool, but I'll say that when I recently went to a backwoods climber gathering, I didn't see ANY RAV4s.

It makes me think that Real Climbers get burlier vehicles...

Cheers!

LS
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2015 - 04:45pm PT
nope, it was a CRV ;)

LS
jonnyrig

climber
May 7, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
Go check out a few for sale. Drive them around. Ask the owner to fold down the rear seats and lie down in the back with you. To see if you fit comfortably. Then decide.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 8, 2015 - 03:04am PT
What are thoughts on a '98 Tacoma 4wd, 220k miles on truck 10k on new engine (2.7L) 5 spee, new clutch, recently replaced- beefed suspension,new exhaust, rear end, very slightly raised and most important, living in Moab, the AC works! Looks bicthin' haven't driven it or done the radio test....

Asking $6k

It's got an NRA sticker, so I'm good, in Wyo! Perhaps limited in California and Colorado....
perswig

climber
May 8, 2015 - 04:10am PT
Gun rack, Jaybro.
Gun rack.


Dale
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