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Hardly Visible
Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
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Albert,
I really dig that you take Sylvester with you on your adventures.
Thanks for all the good pictures.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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Thanks HV. One more for you before we head back up to the lake for a few days. The fishing has been incredible the last couple weeks.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Worth it just for the photos of the lake at full pool, something we're not likely to see for a long time indeed.
I think that they will keep the lake low to help avoid terrorism.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Last time I was there we went in to the Dangling Rope Marina for gas. The
nice young fellow whose name tag said Kiev, Ukraine was pleasantly surprised
when I chatted him up in Rooskie. As we walked away my bro-in-law chuckled
and wondered, "Would he have been so friendly if I told him my F-111's load
of nukes was destined for his home town?"
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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Get to Lake Powell if you get the chance. There are all sorts of ways to experience this magical place, from beach camping with a truck, kayaking, to the whole houseboat experience.
It just so happened while posting these pics this TOOL song was playing, enjoy!
"Ænema"
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of freaks
Here in this hopeless f*#king hole we call L.A.
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*#king time. Any f*#king day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona Bay.
Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your Prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.
It's a bullshit three ring circus sideshow of freaks
Here in this hopeless f*#king hole we call L.A.
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*#king time. Any f*#king day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona Bay.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dip shits.
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cause
I sure could use a vacation from this
Stupid sh#t, silly sh#t, stupid sh#t...
One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim. [3x]
Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.
Learn to swim.
F*#k L Ron Hubbard and
F*#k all his clones.
F*#k all these gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.
Learn to swim.
F*#k retro anything.
F*#k your tattoos.
F*#k all you junkies and
F*#k your short memory.
Learn to swim.
F*#k smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
F*#k these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.
Learn to swim.
Cause I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom, please flush it all away.
I wanna see it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.
Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.
I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.
I wanna see it all come down.
Bring it down
Suck it down.
Flush it down.
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son of stan
Boulder climber
San Jose CA
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It generates 1.3million kilowatts of electricity. That is a lot of money you want to take out of some corps pocket. And then the silt would go down
and fill up Las Vegas's reservoir. For now its protected somewhat by Glen.
What is the thinking here? Do you own shares in the Peabody Coal / Navajo Gen Station? They would have to expand. Increase profits. Double the amount of coal burning steam turbines. More smoke stacks and more smoke.
Leave the dam alone.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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We drove by the former site of Hite Marina last week on our way to hiking fun in SE Utah.
The former Hite marina is now about a mile from the river, (long concrete slab at center left), but we didn't see closed signs.
The ferry service across the lake is also closed, due to low water.
Yep! It's time to destroy the dam.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 12, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
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Long live the lake!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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May 12, 2015 - 06:30pm PT
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The Glenn Canyon institute also has photo libraries of what was lost and also the canyons and features that are now exposed due to the current low water levels.
http://www.glencanyon.org/media_center/photos
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 15, 2015 - 08:23pm PT
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The Place No One Knew
There is still some left to see for the adventurous!
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 15, 2015 - 09:06pm PT
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http://www.wildnesswithin.com/2000/00-3/bridge.html
from the foreword . . .
The Place No One Knew has a moral -- which is why the Sierra Club publishes it -- and the moral is simple: Progress need not deny to the people their inalienable right to be informed and to chose. In Glen Canyon the people never knew what the choices were. Next time, in other stretches of the Colorado, on other rivers that are still free, and wherever there is wildness that can be a part of our civilization instead of victim to it, the people need to know before a bureau's elite decide to wipe out what no man can replace. The Sierra Club has no better purpose than to try to let people know in time. In Glen Canyon we failed. There could hardly be a costlier peacetime mistake.
DAVID BROWER
Berkeley, California
March 13, 1963
"wherever there is wildness that can be a part of our civilization instead of victim to it…"
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 16, 2015 - 04:05pm PT
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The lake is on the Spring rise! Water level is up almost two feet in the last ten days. This is great news for those of us who enjoy water.
http://lakepowell.water-data.com
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 16, 2015 - 04:34pm PT
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Take out the dam and enrage fly fishing environmentalists who enjoy the worldclass trout fishing it has created.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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May 16, 2015 - 04:38pm PT
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albert, i see and like what you're doing here. we have made mistakes. i love lake powell, it is prominent my plans for final days.
the bathtub ring is disturbing, but more of it hardly feels like redemption. sylvester seems to accept that which we cannot change, and i have respect for that perspective
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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May 16, 2015 - 05:56pm PT
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Here's a link to an interesting N.Y. Times article on the subject of dropping water levels in Lake Fowell & Lake Mead.
Among other things it says this:
Studies now show that the 20th century was one of the three wettest of the last 13 centuries in the Colorado basin. On average, the Colorado’s flow over that period was actually 15 percent lower than in the 1900s. And most experts agree that the basin will get even drier: A brace of global-warming studies concludes that rising temperatures will reduce the Colorado’s average flow after 2050 by five to 35 percent, even if rainfall remains the same — and most of those studies predict that rains will diminish.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/us/colorado-river-drought-forces-a-painful-reckoning-for-states.html?_r=0
They are going dry folks.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 16, 2015 - 06:03pm PT
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hooblie, we will see you out at the lake. Let me know when you make in there.
The fishing on the lake may not be "world class" like down below, but there is some damn good fishing on Lake Powell. I have caught seven different species of fish in one day as well as up to 30 landed in one day (been skunked many days, too). Two of my buddies caught over a hundred fish in one day last week, 5 different species of fish.
Guess what? Our own generation has the chance to totally duck up an incredibly wild and remote wilderness. That being the gondola to the confluence of the CR and LCR in the Grand Canyon. I understand the fact that a dozen millionaires stand the chance to earn millions more dollars, while providing low paying, menial jobs to a few dozen local workers. In the midst of a long-term drought it seems to me prudent to hold on to what water we can, while preserving one of the few remaining true wilderness areas in this country.
Read more about the Grand Canyon Escalade here:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2005084/Grand-Canyon-AZ-Gondola
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 16, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
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Sylvester? Lake Cat?
Fritz, total agreement in that the lake is drying up. That water database link posted clearly shows how desperate the situation is becoming. I believe we are at around 44% of lake capacity.
Should we as a community spend a billion dollars destroying an important water reservoir in what appears to be the beginning stages of a drought not seen in millennium? Or should we hold on to what water we have and invest those funds in other renewable energy sources such as solar and wind?
As far as destroying wild places, let us not forget the Grand Canyon Escalade. Another topic of conversation is the massive development in Tusayan, on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon.
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