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the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Mar 3, 2017 - 05:07pm PT
Thanks DD for pointing out the "fake fish" in the photo. It is my understanding the taxidermist did not have a suitable cast for a striper this large. I believe this was a replica of a 50 pound fish found floating 15 years or so ago.

I totally agree the damn thing totally changed the character of Glen Canyon. I am envious of the one or two folks I've met that saw it in its natural condition. I hope you believe me when I say I've spent many, many hours contemplating how much this incredible place has been altered. I wish it wasn't so,but it is and I have tried to make the best of the current situation. For a long time I thought it might be wise to tear down the damn, right now not so much. I would much prefer there be less golf courses and green lawns in Phoenix.

On a brighter note, closing the coal burning plant adjacent to the lake might be happening in the next couple years. I'm happy that the air will be cleaner and the fish healthier, and especially thinking about my Indigineous friends who live in the area that have been harassed for decades because of the coal under their home,
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Mar 3, 2017 - 07:46pm PT
Right on Albatross!

Funny about that fish though:-)
I'd be happy to hook into one even 1/2 that size!
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Mar 3, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
BJ, from what I understand the town of Page and the land that NGS is on was all taken from land once given to the Dineh in treaties long ago. The coal mines are a bitter controversy from what my friends tell me they have been harassed by the coal companies for the last 50 years or so. This is for us to have electricity and heat in our homes.

DD, I've spent a couple hundred hours trolling around and spooning for a fish half this large, my personal best is around ten pounds, that pic a few posts above is my friend Chris with his eleven or twelve pounder.

It will be good if we all start burning less coal and harnessing more sun and wind energy. I do not believe the lies that solar and wind energy is not a viable option for our country.
Mad69Dog

Ice climber
Mar 4, 2017 - 05:03am PT
"I do not believe the lies that solar and wind energy is not a viable option for our country."

Me neither. Photovoltaics need a subsidy to keep growing because of the way fossil fuel sellers define "viable". Wind, in the right places, is totally viable, as is tide. In Europe, there has been success with sun generated steam electricity and you know the SW has more photon flux than Germany.
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Mar 4, 2017 - 06:33pm PT
BJ the coal for NGS comes via an electric train from Black Mesa on the Navajo Rez. The corporations who rule our country call it "clean coal". If you have ever been to Page on a bitter cold winter day under an inversion to witness the yellow cloud of smog you might question this "clean energy".

Many Dineh were forced from their anscestrol homes when coal was discovered here in the 1950s. The government and their sponsoring corporations created a fake controversy between the Hopi and Navajo tribes to hide the theft of this coal. I have been told the Dine feel that the coal acts as a filter for the earth (perhaps like charcoal in water filter) and that by taking it out of the earth and burning it we are doing harm to natural systems. Anyway, my friends that live on Black Mesa have been harassed by government agents for decades. This is so we can have electricity and more golf courses can be built in the desert. My friends believe they are victims of cultural genocide. So that we can have bigger homes, more pavement, more strip malls.


Google Navajo Big Mountain resistance if you are interested in learning more about the cultural genocide going on right now in our country.
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