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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Aug 30, 2015 - 02:43pm PT
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John - I came to the conclusion years ago that subtle genetics-related factors had a lot to do with how hard a motivated, well-trained climber could climb at least for those climbing 5.13 and above.
Back when there were so few climbers, the distribution did not contain many with just the right mix of genetics factors, motivation, and time to train and climb to work at the 5.14 level. But with the big upswing in the total number of climbers, you start to populate the +5 sigma wings of the distribution.
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bazo qop
Boulder climber
Lexington ky
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Aug 30, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
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another one..
[Click to View YouTube Video]
my nephews wife, who coaches gymnastics, is of the opinion that a great number of national class women gymnasts are capable of a front lever...they'd just have to do specific training.....
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Aug 30, 2015 - 05:09pm PT
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The first one counts. The second one doesn't.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2015 - 08:17pm PT
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my nephews wife, who coaches gymnastics, is of the opinion that a great number of national class women gymnasts are capable of a front lever...they'd just have to do specific training.....
That's probably true. Really good female gymnasts these days are young, short, and light - and body length is of great impact. However, Jim Holloway was about 6'4" or taller and did a flawless FL years ago.
How tall and heavy are you, Rich? Any of the rest of you who do FLs?
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Aug 30, 2015 - 08:33pm PT
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When I did solid front levers BITD I was 5' 9" and 155 lbs. Since then I've lost nearly 2 inches in height and gained about 5 lbs. I can still manage a straddle FL, although I haven't been trying them much in the last few years and the ability is fading...
I still do some repetitions pulling slowly from a full hang into a front lever, pausing, and then continuing to pull to an inverted hang. Then down to front lever, pause, back up to inverted hang, etc. for a few reps. But now in my seventies I do these with a leg stagged, and am happy enough to be managing that.
I have some iPhone videos, but they aren't on You Tube so I don't think I can post 'em they way you can photos.
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crankenstein
Trad climber
Louisville, CO
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Aug 30, 2015 - 08:35pm PT
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I can do a pretty good FL at 5'9" and 155 lbs. It took me a while to regain it after being a former gymnast and not doing one for several years. Now I make it a point to work that move in the gym every time. There are a lot of really strong people in the crossfit gym I go to, and they all they I'm freaky strong because I do front levers and then muscle up on the rings and none of them can do it. I think it's because my legs are so small (and weak) compared to theirs. By the way, I'm 56 years old also.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
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Any other FL enthusiasts?
Some carryover to climbing on roofs, etc., but not much value otherwise. Just a challenge. Sixty years ago it was given a B rating (A<B<C) in gymnastics, then gymnasts got a lot shorter and it is now given an A rating (A<B<C<D<E<F).
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 04:51pm PT
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I consider doing a FL an experiential adventure. (see What is Mind)
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