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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 20, 2015 - 11:24am PT
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Having a debate over here. Is it just CA bias or is The Needles really the best there is?
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Flip Flop
climber
salad bowl, california
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Apr 20, 2015 - 11:29am PT
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No, you're right, it's the Needles.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2015 - 11:45am PT
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I'm not saying which side of the debate I'm on
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The Alpine
climber
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Apr 20, 2015 - 11:47am PT
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No, the Needles are even better than that.
And Im not from Cali.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Apr 20, 2015 - 11:47am PT
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Never been there, but how about Squamish?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Apr 20, 2015 - 11:55am PT
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Index.
Squamish is awesome as is the Valley and the Needles. But damn, Index has a way of being OnYa.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Apr 20, 2015 - 11:58am PT
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What, no Love for Boulder Canyon?
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Gregory Crouch
Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:01pm PT
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The best granite crack in the world is the one I'm jamming right now.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:05pm PT
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The Needles is indeed incredible.
But for sheer quality, quantity, height, access, variety, you can't beat Yosemite. Is someone seriously in this debate saying the Needles is better?
Let's say in area Zombex, I have one crack that is considered the best in the world. So I can now say that Zombex has the worlds best crack climbing?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
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Pinnacles.
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The Alpine
climber
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
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"Best" means quality.
The Needles are grade A, top notch, the finest.
And that applies to basically EVERY route there.
But we're all entitled to opinions.
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:13pm PT
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For small stuff/bouldering, I can't imagine anything beating Woodson.
^^ haha munge
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
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Dan, now ye dun did it!
lol
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:15pm PT
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For sheer concentration, I would say Index.
For length of quality cracks - Yosemite.
For setting, The Needles.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 20, 2015 - 12:17pm PT
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But we're all entitled to opinions.
Indeed. So I was correct then, Zombex DOES have the worlds best crack, even if there's only one of them.
I say the valley's quality, quantity and variety trumps Zombex, but that's only my lowly opinion.
On Belay!!
(HEY!!! Fuk you!! ......says Red Rock and Indian Creek!!)
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2015 - 12:33pm PT
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Never been to index but the pictures look incredible and the granite looks fine-grained and perfect.
I haven't had a ton of experience in the Needles or Yosemite but I have been less impressed by Yosemite cracks than I though I would be given the reputation. Seems like there are good crack sections on climbs or one-pitch wonders but not a ton of long, sustained nice cracks. I know they're there, but considering the amount of rock I though there would be more. Everything I've done at the Needles (not much) was beautiful cracks bottom to top.
But, it's a big world...
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Apr 20, 2015 - 06:34pm PT
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El Cap alone is in the top 5 worldwide.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 20, 2015 - 06:42pm PT
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Nothing to see here people...
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 20, 2015 - 06:45pm PT
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Mali Africa.
Unbelievable climbing with zillions of new routes to do
Unbelievably horrendous hot, disgusting climate with no food and water.
No sane person really wants to go there.
That's why I went, because I'm insane .....
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Apr 20, 2015 - 08:27pm PT
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Mike, The Calling is so yesterday.
Nobody's going to get on that thing now.
%^)
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