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madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 05:36pm PT
I want the meanest bitch out there who will start castrating republicans the moment the oath is taken.

The Hillabeast qualifies for the first phrase. But she's woefully inadequate to the task of "castrating" the mega-corporations that so desperately need it. She's as much in bed with them as any Rebumblecon.
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Aug 17, 2015 - 05:51pm PT
Put a fork in her. She's done....
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 06:24pm PT
How ironic that Hillary is the most Nixonian politician of our era.
Paranoid, secretive, dishonest, enemy's list, topped off with a wooden personality.
Everything but the name Dick.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 06:26pm PT
I'm sorry, please remind me again, has Hillary committed a provable offense that would be impeachable if she was president?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 17, 2015 - 06:54pm PT
P.S. Where would she have gotten such an idea...?

The Bush White House email controversy surfaced in 2007 during the controversy involving the dismissal of eight U.S. The Bush White House email controversy surfaced in 2007 during the controversy involving the dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys. Congressional requests for administration documents while investigating the dismissals of the U.S. attorneys required the Bush administration to reveal that not all internal White House emails were available, because they were sent via a non-government domain hosted on an email server not controlled by the federal government. Conducting governmental business in this manner is a possible violation of the Presidential Records Act of 1978, and the Hatch Act.[1] Over 5 million emails may have been lost or deleted.[2][3] Greg Palast claims to have come up with 500 of the Karl Rove lost emails, leading to damaging allegations.[4] In 2009, it was announced that as many as 22 million emails may have been deleted.[5]

The administration officials had been using a private Internet domain, called gwb43.com, owned by and hosted on an email server run by the Republican National Committee,[6] for various communications of unknown content or purpose. The domain name is an acronym standing for "George W. Bush, 43rd" President of the United States. The server came public when it was discovered that J. Scott Jennings, the White House's deputy director of political affairs, was using a gwb43.com email address to discuss the firing of the U.S. attorney for Arkansas.[7] Communications by federal employees were also found on georgewbush.com (registered to "Bush-Cheney '04, Inc."[8]) and rnchq.org (registered to "Republican National Committee"[9]), but, unlike these two servers, gwb43.com has no Web server connected to it — it is used only for email.[10]. Congressional requests for administration documents while investigating the dismissals of the U.S. attorneys required the Bush administration to reveal that not all internal White House emails were available, because they were sent via a non-government domain hosted on an email server not controlled by the federal government. Conducting governmental business in this manner is a possible violation of the Presidential Records Act of 1978, and the Hatch Act.[1] Over 5 million emails may have been lost or deleted.[2][3] Greg Palast claims to have come up with 500 of the Karl Rove lost emails, leading to damaging allegations.[4] In 2009, it was announced that as many as 22 million emails may have been deleted.[5]

The administration officials had been using a private Internet domain, called gwb43.com, owned by and hosted on an email server run by the Republican National Committee,[6] for various communications of unknown content or purpose. The domain name is an acronym standing for "George W. Bush, 43rd" President of the United States. The server came public when it was discovered that J. Scott Jennings, the White House's deputy director of political affairs, was using a gwb43.com email address to discuss the firing of the U.S. attorney for Arkansas.[7] Communications by federal employees were also found on georgewbush.com (registered to "Bush-Cheney '04, Inc."[8]) and rnchq.org (registered to "Republican National Committee"[9]), but, unlike these two servers, gwb43.com has no Web server connected to it — it is used only for email.[10]
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
I'm sorry, please remind me again

Okay, look for my posts upthread in which I do a thorough analysis of the State Department's posted FOIA regulations (that were in place while the Hillabeast was SecState) and that she intentionally and systematically violated. Also note the sections referring to the MINIMUM prison time for conviction of violations of said sections.

People that "meh" on the "really nothing to see here 'email scandal'" are not IT professionals that realize the "back story" to how she set up the server, how she obfuscated on its operations (and UTTER lack of proper security), how she "searched" (not!) for "State-related" emails, how she ALONE decided what to release and what not to release, how she wiped the server before anybody could verify her work, and it goes on and on. She was systematically in violation of FOIA, and those violations carry minimum prison sentences.

Now, even with a wiped server, so that the full extent of her criminal behaviors can never be known (how convenient for her), the very act of wiping the server in the context in which that was done SHOULD could as obstruction of justice. She refused to turn it over, despite REPEATED formal requests, until she was confident that she gotten performed a full forensic-level wipe of it. NOW she can truly say, "Nothing to see here," but that (now, convenient) fact itself condemns her.

She has been not merely "not totally transparent!" She has violated FOIA and then preemptively destroyed material evidence in her efforts to hide the full extent of her law-breaking.

This is no "meh" issue.

Oh, and she IS totally in bed with big-corporate-America. There is NO difference between her and a Rebumblecon on that front. So, if you are going to vote for the Hillabeast on the basis of corporate reform, you are very confused and will be (predictably) disappointed.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
P.S. Where would she have gotten such an idea...?

This is a standard response: Well, [fill in your favorite infamous Rebumblecon] did the same and perhaps even worse.

That doesn't get it!

The fact that criminal behavior goes unpunished (by anybody) is not a PASS for the next corrupt politician (of any stripe) to go unpunished.

How about we quit setting the bar lower and lower since Nixon and actually insist that the parties put up NON-criminal, TOTALLY-transparent, non-goofball candidates? We have time during the primary cycle to basically vote no-confidence on the preferred candidates. Tell 'em to "reboot" and try again.

And QUIT voting in incumbents again and again!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
Wrong. She has done nothing illegal. Big fuss fanned and fueled by rightwing media.

Wrong. I'm not a Fox-watcher or in any other way "fueled" by the "right wing media."

I'm an IT professional who has reviewed the FOIA on State's website for myself, listened to what the Hillabeast HERSELF has said was the state of affairs, looked for myself at the posted results of website/email security tests (not even a valid SSL cert in place, among other basic problems!), and have concluded for myself that the woman moved Heaven and Earth to ENSURE that nobody could EVER fully review her communications while acting as SecState. And she was willing to compromise National Security while doing so.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
give the job to amateurs.

You mean like Obama was?
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:31pm PT
I love it how people can disavow themselves from Fox News and also disavow themselves from the influence of right wing media and THEN spout scripture and verse......camouflage at its best!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:37pm PT
You don't like incumbents. You want a revolving door of newbies you deem pure. That person doesn't exist.

How about we start with non-incumbents that will vote for campaign finance reform and that will actively engage in ONE of the three main functions of a constitutional federal government: Anti-trust regulation with genuine teeth? Break up these mega-corps rather than even ENTERTAIN the notion of yet more mergers. Comcast and Time-Warner? How was that even imagined? In an era of proper governmental oversight, Comcast is itself broken up!

I don't expect "purity!" I expect BASIC integrity at representing WE THE PEOPLE.

See, to me, the great irony is that you and I want the same thing in regard to these mega-corps. But "the establishment" has you and I fighting over relatively non-issues. And the Hillabeast is as ESTABLISHMENT as you can get!

A Jeb vs. Hillary election? What a sick JOKE! Both are sick puppies! But "the establishment" will keep us fighting across party lines, when BOTH parties are sick and wrong.

As I said, give me a non-establishment, honest, anti-mega-corp candidate, like Bernie, and I don't give a RIP about parties (I have no party loyalty anyway). I'll happily ignore his socialism because there IS no "perfect" candidate. And, believe me, that's a HUGE compromise for me!!! But cleaning up the political PROCESS is paramount, and the Hillabeast is the LAST person to do it!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
spout scripture and verse

What illegal, mind-altering drugs are you on tonight?

My arguments are from first-hand evaluations, and I've drawn my own conclusions.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:44pm PT
My take on politicians:


My take on Hillary:

zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 08:27pm PT
And she was willing to compromise National Security while doing so.

WTF are you talking about? NSA monitored every single one of Hilary's emails. As, more than likely, did the Chinese.

If Romney had looked electorally dangerous, his tax returns, showing his off-shore(s) and participation in tax amnesty program would have been on the Internet forthwith.



Larry Nelson

Social climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 08:33pm PT
Since both parties are kinda mirror images, could just as easily be put:

I love it how people can disavow themselves from DNC talking points and also disavow themselves from the influence of left wing media and THEN spout scripture and verse......camouflage at its best!

Washington DC is corrupt. Small business and the middle class support 47% AND the too big to fail corporations.
Small business and the middle class will get no help from either party.
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 08:35pm PT
The answer my friend is not blowing in the wind, it's AT&T.

In September 2003, according to the previously undisclosed N.S.A. documents, AT&T was the first partner to turn on a new collection capability that the N.S.A. said amounted to a “ ‘live’ presence on the global net.” In one of its first months of operation, the Fairview program forwarded to the agency 400 billion Internet metadata records — which include who contacted whom and other details, but not what they said — and was “forwarding more than one million emails a day to the keyword selection system” at the agency’s headquarters in Fort Meade, Md.

Many privacy advocates have suspected that AT&T was giving the N.S.A. a copy of all Internet data to sift for itself. But one 2012 presentation says the spy agency does not “typically” have “direct access” to telecoms’ hubs. Instead, the telecoms have done the sifting and forwarded messages the government believes it may legally collect.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 17, 2015 - 09:06pm PT
lol.....locker.
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Aug 17, 2015 - 09:08pm PT
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Aug 17, 2015 - 09:14pm PT
Wow, it's whackosphere cut & paste night. You guys get tired of playing Yahtzee ?
dirtbag

climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 09:16pm PT
No sh#t...
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