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stay norwegian. good boy

climber
Mar 9, 2018 - 07:08am PT
may eye throw some petrol
on your fire?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 07:20am PT
ur a fuel if u don't
be my accomplice
or be my bad influence
ur choyce

[Vídeo Remasterizado Y Audio Equalizado]
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 07:26am PT
Another Thread Topic Reject--

"Booger Wonderland In A Day (BWIAD): Doable off the couch?"

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 07:36am PT
Tchaikovskiana.
a reworked hooblie abstract
a reworked hooblie abstract
Credit: mouse from merced
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Mar 9, 2018 - 07:41am PT
on pointe, balletically speaking
frostback

Social climber
great white north
Mar 9, 2018 - 07:54am PT
Mouse
As a flames lurker I need to set the dentures, err teeth straight.
In the pic upthread of a climber allegedly in Vietnam, I do believe he was a more fortunate son and thus posted to S Thailand where this pic was taken.
Good luck with your coming move.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Mar 9, 2018 - 07:58am PT



DMT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 12:48pm PT
Pest Editorial
Casual Friday Edition
"Enjoy that third martini and no suit and tie, bro!"
Donald Dump.  Not a deity archetype.  Even dogs avoid him.
Donald Dump. Not a deity archetype. Even dogs avoid him.
Credit: mouse from merced
NEW YORK—“I’m spiritual but not religious.”

WTF. Why do people say this?

Yes, we know you’re spiritual. Everybody is spiritual. Mafia hitmen are spiritual. We’re all made up of body, soul, and spirit. So why are you telling me about it?

Or maybe you mean “spiritual” in the sense of the old “Negro spirituals,” meaning songs about Jesus—but no, we have to rule that one out because that would probably require a choir, which would require a church, which would require something religious.

But wait! There’s actually a Wikipedia entry called “Spirituality,” so maybe some spiritual-but-not-religious Ph.D.s from Jonathan Livingston Seagull University have been posting there.

Nope, not helpful. According to the article, spirituality can involve:
(1) seeking the image of God.
(2) seeking the image of God in man.
(3) seeking the “deepest values and meanings by which people live.”
(4) belief in the supernatural.
(5) belief in personal growth.
(6) quest for ultimate meaning.
(7) quest for sacred meaning.
(8) religious experience. (How did this one get in there?)
(9) encountering one’s own inner dimension. (No idea what that means, but you can encounter a lot of your inner dimension with a few Pabst Blue Ribbons.)

There are, in fact, at least 27 definitions of “spirituality” in the academic literature, so if we were being scientific about it, we would conclude that the word itself is a meaningless basket term that can be manipulated to signify anything or nothing.

“The word is ‘atheist.’ Please use it.”

So let me go back to my original question:
Why do people feel the need to say “I’m spiritual but not religious”?

Maybe we’re focusing on the wrong word. Maybe it’s the “not religious” part they want us to hear.

Except you could say you’re not religious without adding the “spiritual” thing and confusing the heck out of us. Not Religious is a good thing to be. It’s easy. It’s succinct. It’s the official doctrine of many political parties, including the Communists. It’s a way to say “I’m not concerned with God, churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, monasteries, or Holy Writ. I’m going it alone.”

So just leave “spiritual” out of it. But they won’t. We have to know how spiritual they are.

Fortunately we have some guideposts provided by Tara Burton, a writer for Vox who recently reported the results of a study conducted by something called the Public Religion Research Institute, which, upon cursory examination, is a think-tanky D.C. polling organization founded in 2009 by an Emory University professor who believes that “white Christianity” is dead. The “nonpartisan” PRRI is dedicated, according to its website, to “illuminating America’s changing cultural, religious, and political landscape.” Apparently this includes a lot of spiritual non-religion.

So their latest illumination is a poll showing that 20 percent of Americans are Spiritual But Not Religious.

Yes, it’s no longer a bromide or something your eccentric aunt says, it’s an actual category in the poll.

Since we can’t possibly know what that means (see above), Tara Burton has done us the favor of seeking out some representative Spiritual-But-Not-Religious worshippers:

Ava Lee Scott, New York actress and “theater-maker,” studies ancient languages including Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic, reads Tarot cards, studies the cosmological principles in runes, uses cowrie shells for some kind of enlightenment that I don’t quite understand, and believes in “a higher power,” which is the old Alcoholics Anonymous term to avoid saying “God.” (I’m not sure what a theater-maker is, but I assume it does not involve construction on Broadway.) She also makes copious use of plants, Dead Sea salt baths, and herbs, which are “the magic healers of the earth connecting us to the spiritual.” (I’m going to assume she’s not talking about hemlock, nightshade, or snakeroot, although I guess you could say Socrates got majorly connected to the spiritual that way.)

Dain Quentin Gore, an Arizona artist, finds religious meaning in “creating powerful art.” “Making art and puppetry are my transcendent moments,” he says.

Megan Ribar, who works at a yoga studio where she finds “transcendence” through meditation and “personal ritualistic acts,” rejects the term “spiritual” (but somehow remains in the polling category) while keeping an altar of objects that are meaningful to her, sometimes performing rituals in which she calls on “deities” or “deity archetypes.”

Trish Richards, a dog walker in New York, needed a “private and personal” form of religion after feeling uncomfortable in her Lutheran church because she’s gay. It’s not specified what form this religion takes. [Our enlightened editorial guess is that dog-walking is a form of turd worship.]

Scott Stanger, a New York photographer, was put off by his Jewish upbringing, which he considered outmoded. It’s not clear what he replaced it with.

So now we know what “spiritual” means. It means:
(1) Alone.
(2) Me.
(3) Making myself feel good.
(4) Not bothering with the messy business of screwed-up disagreeable people who show up at church and make you listen to their problems and ignore your own.
(5) Sociology class.

There’s a word for this. It’s a perfectly good word, tested by centuries of use. The word is “atheist.” Please use it. Then we won’t think you’re so weird. We’ll even trade a few cowrie shells with you on our way to your puppet show.
--Joe Bob Briggs

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 04:15pm PT
So, WyoRockMan, how spiritual are you feeling today after your non-fatal ice climbing venture?

Coltrane - Russian Lullaby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux2qH8CMVr4
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Mar 9, 2018 - 04:19pm PT
MfM,

Not at all really.

Just dumb luck or I'm really hard to kill.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 9, 2018 - 05:54pm PT
Seems like a freeze ... er .. flame out



-don Defreeze

Harry hissownself turned in, IMO, the weakest version of La Bamba I've ever heard. It's good though



Not Jerry or even Gerry, Trini Lopez

Orale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3dvgWOSrO8





Description

1972 Lightning Bolt by Lopez for Orley 8' 7" (lot of 2 items)

One of the more significant vintage Lightning Bolt surfboards to appear at auction, this early Lopez comes with some very interesting Lopez provenance. Here's an exquisite, top-of-the-line 8' 7" gun that was hand crafted by Gerry Lopez for his friend John "Orly" Hitchcock.

Lopez built this Pipe gun and gifted it to Hitchcock in appreciation for him featuring Gerry and his recently formed Lightning Bolt shop in his 1972 movie, Island Magic. Besides shots of the new Lightning Bolt shop, the movie showed a number of great surfers on Lightning Bolt surfboards.

In addition, Hitchcock used Gerry's image on a Lightning Bolt board for his movie poster. Of course, both Gerry Lopez and his Lightning Bolt label are legendary. Lightning Bolt was the most surfed board by professional surfers in the 70s.

Lopez himself was the consummate tube rider and set the standard for the generations that followed. His relaxed, stylish manner elevated tube riding to new heights. With his fresh approach to riding in the barrel, Lopez became known as "Mr. Pipeline" and went on to win two Pipe Masters titles. His first win came in the same year this board was built in 1972. He followed up with a second win in 1973.

Besides Island Magic, Lopez appeared in about three dozen other surf movies and documentaries. He's also been in a score of Hollywood movies including as the co-star in Conan the Barbarian, the movie that helped launch Arnold Schwarzenegger's career.

This priceless board is in absolutely exquisite condition. It was ridden at Pipeline less than a handful of times before being retired. The leash loop is a glue on so it can be easily removed if one so wishes. The original owner John 'Orley' (Orly) Hitchcock was living in Aspen, Colorado when Lopez made this special board for him. Visible on the stringer Lopez wrote "Lopez for Orley Colorado"

Included in this lot is a DVD of the surf movie John 'Orley' Hitchcock produced in 1972, Island Magic.

Here's a rare opportunity to add to your collection one of the most outstanding, all original Lightning Bolts by Gerry Lopez we've ever seen. The interesting provenance certainly adds to the importance of this wonderful investment quality board.

Lightning Bolt surfboards hand shaped by Gerry Lopez have proven to be solid investments as they continue to increase in value. Lightning Bolts by Lopez that have provenance attached have sold at auction in 2005 and 2007 for $12,000 and $15,000.

This exceptional showpiece, with its history, will be a featured board in the full color hardcover coffee table book, Vintage Surfboards II, available later this year.

Pre-auction estimate: $6,000.-$8,000. No Reserve
(Our estimate may be low here so bid accordingly.)


Lalo John Hitchcock
Lalo John Hitchcock
Credit: zBrown

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 09:44pm PT


Lightning Bolt
Midnight Lightning
Lightnin' Hopkins

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2018 - 10:28pm PT
Midnight Pipeline.
Midnight Pipeline.
Credit: mouse from merced
MFM enchancement of one of Gnome's playful pics.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2018 - 05:46am PT
Some B/W stuff from Glen Denny, Bob Swift, Allen Steck, Jeff Johnson, and George Whitmore.

https://archiv-e.com/collections/climbing
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Mar 10, 2018 - 07:11am PT
If it Quacks Like a Duck...

When I thought I had used all the words I had found
only silence remained as the infinite sound
of the questions I had with enough to go ‘round
for the animals that exist on this world spinning round

So I took out my notes and compared what I knew
with the prospect of what I might learn when I’m through
multiplied by the proclivity to constantly spew
as I spiraled back towards the primordial goo

Infected with constantly examining my place
I was born to this world with that look on my face
perplexed by dilemmas and forsaking all grace
I have questioned my origins and vilified my race

To be human and curious I’ve wondered why it’s so
that mankind is so clueless and vicious as you know
inflicted by philosophies so numerous ergo
to fight from conception to oblivion we’ll go

When I thought I had used all the words that I knew
I realized I knew nothing and words would not do
as time rockets forward from my point of view
‘twards some rendezvous with destiny and into the blue

-bushman
03/10/2018
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 10, 2018 - 07:20am PT
The correct spelling was Orly, not Orley. I somehow have misplaced my copy of Island Magic.

L. John Orly Hitchcock went through some rough times (not as rough as Leon & Clayton mind you, but rough) after the film. (Orly and Sofie were the proud parents). Little Orly did not make sense though.

I know that movie is around here somewhere.

It was a good board though. Can't find out how much it actually went ofr an who got the money.

stay norwegian. good boy

climber
Mar 10, 2018 - 07:41am PT
bushman i dig your prose,

from my past scribbling on
the walls of this cage:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1903075&msg=1903096#msg1903096

"im interested in subtly exploding my mind
outwards, one wee and quiet character at a time.

words are an oportunity.
words are a weapon.

words [are a tampon,] absorbing the expired wisdom
that seeps fluid-like from the mind's assehole"
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Mar 10, 2018 - 11:24am PT
http://www.stevelenzphotography.com/blog/2015/4/drumheller-channels-national-natural-monument

not his photo, they're locked up. but kindred spirit that guy
Credit: tom foster
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
hooblie, such a geography lesson!

I've known about scablands for a long time but never knew about the National Natural Landmark Monuments program till now, so thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Natural_Landmark


William Lee Golden, something of a National Legend, I would think.
He's one of the Oak Ridge Boys, if you don't recognize him.
Sponsors for this appearance:
Milkman delivers!
Milkman delivers!
Credit: mouse from merced
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Mar 10, 2018 - 08:24pm PT
thomas oliver ~ the moment: http//youtu.be/MRyStdaFvYE
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