Yo JGill, What Do You Think Of Frank's Lever Action?

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jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Mar 20, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
He doesn't ever seem to do his one-arm pullups all the way up for some reason (rgold)

I think he might have better orthopedic advice than you or I may have been exposed to, Rich. At 78 I find that if I do more than three (normal) pull-ups in "official" style - chin well over bar - I experience pain and discomfort in the connective tissues of the elbow. So I don't pull up that high, only to eyeball level when doing my customary ten as a warm-up for the horizontal ladder. And over the years, as I continued doing one-arm pull-ups until about 2007, I gradually reduced the degree of contraction. The result being that I am still in pretty fair shape for suspension exercises even though my shoulders have no cartilage.

I'm curious if any of the older climbers on this site - other than Rich and myself - do bodyweight exercises (particularly suspension, but not climbing moves).

And as Tom mentions above, bodyweight calisthenics can be a practice in themselves and not necessarily done as training for another sport.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Mar 20, 2015 - 08:15pm PT
John, I have to confess to using wrist straps in my dotage, which allow me to substantially relax my grip while doing pullups. I actually started doing this quite a while ago, after suffering more or less continually for 20 or 30 years from varying levels of epicondylitis (mostly medial). I imagine my elbows are pretty much all scar tissue at this point.

That said, I'm still pulling hands all the way to upper chest---probably dumb but old habits die hard...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2015 - 09:14am PT
This is the money, having some of our best talking about these issues.

I'm impressed that you guys are doing suspension exercises. I have some elbow and shoulder trouble, but nothing extreme.

And me at a youngster's 54, it's motivation that's hard to come by when the nice chairs out on the patio beckon.

How the hell do you guys do it!!??
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Mar 21, 2015 - 09:33am PT
I think John has explained it: we find it kinda fun. And this is also the answer to Lynne's comment about Frank's muscles not being put to good use. If he's having fun---and the playfulness of his routines certainly suggests that he is---then I'd say his muscles are being put to as a good a use as any other athlete's.

I've certainly cut way back---I always leave at least two rest days between any pullup/lever sessions. I'm still gainfully employed with a long commute, so sometimes I only manage one upper body session per week.

My shoulders hurt on and off. I do dumbell presses to try to keep things from falling apart there.

A pinched nerve in my neck sidelined me for ten weeks recently, and I'm just ramping up again. Man do you lose strength fast at 70+ when you don't do anything!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 21, 2015 - 09:46am PT
No Grateful Dead! Survival ha fun words to string together .is how they do it
Although I may be wrong in the case of both men they may tell if we can figure what to ask?


The very rgold and Jgill were both the standards that we of your age aspired to
The jstan needs to chime in then I will have seen the trifecta and will use it to motivate me.
I have joined a gym ,
When some asks after Donnini I say he is the Hannold type freak the Lucky schnook!
one in ten thousand get his DNA mix and most waste it in pursuit of the useless.
Drinking away fitness, basketball and such, . . . . Ho wait ??
That is what my father defined climbing as and he was the first to tie me up and throw me off a rock, I think he meant well and was trying his best.
Most of the rest of us need to study and follow The masters of fitness and mental acuity.
Jgill and rgold.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
I agree Gnome.

I play basketball with my kids, but not hard. My daughter is varsity and my son is JV, I have to be careful trying to compete with all that rubbery youth!

They are both doing more body weight cals now, so that is helping to get me going. Just playful games with them. If I start thinking of it as work, forget it.....
jstan

climber
Mar 21, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
Jgill and rgold

Indeed, it was that to which we aspired.
LilaBiene

Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
Mar 23, 2015 - 06:08pm PT
Y'all just made my day. ")

3 months post-surgery and I eeked out a mile in the pool yesterday. There's hope yet!

Handstands by summer!!!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 26, 2015 - 07:37am PT
BUMP FOR THE MUTATION, MOTIVATION!

Some are built for speed, some for comfort,

Came a Time for me when I had to choose;


Real Buff or Cream Puff,
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Mar 28, 2015 - 06:37am PT
Tami: was this the handstand video? This one got passed around on my FB links the same day. At any rate, I don't think it's Frank (maybe he just posted it). I don't who it is but the routine is pretty incredible.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 28, 2015 - 06:50am PT
YES The Trifecta and a nice routine of floor exercises,too!!
Doing my Tai chi at the pond in the cold.[Thats mouse from merced hangin' out]
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Mar 28, 2015 - 09:12am PT
Elbow problems were mentioned previously depending on how high you raise your body.I am also a youngster of 53 but have been doing chin ups regularly since I was 15. I have found for me the neutral grip takes away most of the stress on the elbow that a pronated grip causes even though the pronated grip most replicates a climbers movement.
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