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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 19, 2015 - 10:36am PT
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I know little about levers of different types other than my own weak attempts, but this fellow certainly seems to get into some incredible positions!
I'd love to read some thoughts of others here. Tami? I know Timid Toprope does this stuff all the time, but it looks way hard to me!!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 19, 2015 - 10:52am PT
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John Gill was doing that sh#t fifty years ago. With mountain boots.
And he didn't need those earbuds for aid, either.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2015 - 11:07am PT
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BWA HA HA hahahaaa!!
Ghost, you're just jealous.
Speaking of chiles, I've got some good starts indoors, and some little bitty ones too. Early Jalapeno, a couple kinds of Habanero, Black Pearl, Poblano, Chervena Chujska (never heard of 'em before) and some Hot Lemon. I've got some Thai plants that overwintered also. Fingers crossed.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Mar 19, 2015 - 02:37pm PT
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What Ghost said.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2015 - 03:08pm PT
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Yeah like you guys aren't impressed with Frank's moves!
He does a ton of stuff beyond levers that would apply to climbing. Pull-ups, various mantles, side pulls etc.
I betcha Gentleman John has something nice to say!
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 19, 2015 - 03:50pm PT
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Have you seen what the fellas are doing these days on still rings?
I dunno. What I saw was a bunch of guys who don't seem to know that lycra was already over twenty years ago. And lycra with tube socks? What a bunch of losers. They'd get laughed out the door at any climbing gym.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Mar 19, 2015 - 03:54pm PT
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Just wonderin' if he does anything useful with all those muscles?
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Mar 19, 2015 - 04:22pm PT
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Medrano does some cool calesthenics but the gymnastics guys are in another league in both strength and coordination.
Modrano has nothing special going on in the lever department and almost never holds 'em. But kudos for doing them with shoes on, which adds some difficulty, and he does have an interesting lever done palms up. The handstand press out of a planche is nice, probably his hardest trick, but again nothing special compared to the ring guys. He doesn't ever seem to do his one-arm pullups all the way up for some reason. His forte is stringing together interesting calisthenic routines involving fun and surprising combinations and sure, he is stronger than 99.9% of the athletic world.
Lynne, do you think climbing is more "useful" than calisthenics?
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L
climber
California dreamin' on the farside of the world..
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Mar 19, 2015 - 04:33pm PT
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I wonder if the ladies of Stuportopo have been enjoying Frank?
What say girls?
Frank's muscle definition is pretty amazing, I've got to say. Like one of those anatomy charts you see in biology class. And some of the tricks he performs are...well...simply incredible.
But overall, aesthetically speaking, I sort of felt like I was watching a Praying Mantis in lime green Nikes trying to figure out which end belonged in the air.
If you know what I mean. :-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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I dunno. What I saw was a bunch of guys who don't seem to know that lycra was already over twenty years ago. And lycra with tube socks? What a bunch of losers. They'd get laughed out the door at any climbing gym.
Ghost is certainly feeling froggy today!
Great comments gang. This is what I was hoping for. Not an Earth shattering thread, but the dude is pretty badass it seems to me.
She said Praying Mantis trying to decide which end belongs in the air, heh heh...
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Mar 19, 2015 - 05:01pm PT
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Frank Medrano is fabulous. He has carried non-gymnastic bodyweight exercises to new levels. Some of his tricks are not that hard, but he does them stylishly, like "walking" up invisible stairs or sliding his hands back and forth across the bar while suspended from it. Kudos to this young guy!
The still rings ruined my shoulders, but they were great fun. However, men's gymnastics has changed quite a bit from where it was 60 years ago when I was learning stunts. Not only are the moves quite a bit harder but the physiques of the gymnasts have changed.
John Beckner was the top male American gymnast in the mid 1950s, and he was over six feet tall. Very sturdily built but not what you see today. These days male gymnasts are usually about 5'2" - 5"6" and they are quite a bit more muscular than in my time. Hence the moves you see in that video that would be incredibly hard for a six footer, if not virtually impossible. But I've learned to never say never!
In the video the move called an "inverted swallow" was called a "Victorian" or "Victorian cross" previously. I came up with the idea about 55 years ago and tried hard to pull up from a front lever, but could only hold the position at most a second. At 6'2" I really didn't have a chance.
Where you see the gymnast rolling from below into a swallow and a cross was a move I think I saw an American competitor doing in Bartlett Gymnasium at the U of Chicago just prior to the Pan American Games in August of 1959. I couldn't believe how light he seemed.
At that time the hardest thing I could do was something now called an "elevator" from a front lever: from a hang pull straight body through a front lever continuing inverted into an handstand. At the time it went beyond the C category (A,B,C) into new levels of difficulty, although I learned it from a alumnus of the U of C team and saw it done by several athletes. It's probably considered moderate now, maybe a D move - like a 5.10, which was pushing new levels in the 1950s.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Mar 19, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
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Just to clarify a bit, if I had all that strength and fitness going for me I'd get out doors and have fun. I guess some people just like working out indoors. Go figure. We're all created differently. I'll take mediocrity and play in the sun, wind and rain. :)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2015 - 06:46pm PT
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Thanks John. I was so hoping you'd see this too.
I win the bet with myself, John said nice stuff!
Lynne, I was thinking the same thing when I saw Franks indoor routine.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 19, 2015 - 07:56pm PT
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Frank looks kinda weak.
He should work out more ....
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Mar 19, 2015 - 08:20pm PT
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Frank has got some style prolly invoked from the urban gymnast doing gymnastics and dance moves off of car hoods, flagpoles, and handrails and such. AKA, The Environment. It's quite skillful and entertaining:)
But if you want to add some adventure to ur environment. Then you got to step up to The King's Throne;
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2015 - 07:37am PT
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Eeeewwwwww!! Now I'll have that stuck in my head!
Scary Bulgarian women? I thought it was mostly the East German gals that went for beards....
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 20, 2015 - 09:01am PT
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"I need a women about twice my size"
A women of nobility( inbred ) gentility,( still feminine ) and Rage! ( suffering from steroid abuse)
It. Takes all kinds, not that I go that way but the song is the best for pointing out
I Need A Miracle Every Day, to much of every thing and the dynamite thing too.
Also in - When I Paint my Master Piece. The women full of muscles, line?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2015 - 10:59am PT
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I need a West LA girl, already know what I need to know....
Name, address and phone number lord, just how far to go!
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LongAgo
Trad climber
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Mar 20, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
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Lynn said:
"Just wonderin' if he does anything useful with all those muscles?"
Somehow I think he has found many uses for those and other muscles and all his sensuous movements, well beyond gymnastics. Think so?
Even Longer Ago
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