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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 4, 2015 - 09:47am PT
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Admit it. You were a closeted kayaker once, but you haven't paddled that thing in years, and boy, does it take up a lot of space. Wouldn't it be nice to just unload that boat-without-an-anchor?
Long shot - I live in WA, but I'm road tripping in CA next month. Show me that boat you'd secretly love to get rid of.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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OK. Not a double, and I live on the east coast... but I am probably going to sell it come spring.
Fiberglass 17' Greenland style kayak.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 09:58am PT
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Thanks. Alternatively, I'm looking for a single 17' or under with a skeg (no rudder).
What model is that, Anita?
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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That's a Current Designs Caribou (skeg).
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Tandem??? Don't you know they call that the "Divorce Boat?"
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 10:09am PT
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Currently my favorite brand, along with Necky. How's the stability? Pretty narrow, but the bottom is pretty flat.
My experience with divorce boats has been the opposite - differences in paddling speed seems to be the number one source of dissatisfaction. And doubles are generally faster.
Still - two singles is more versatile.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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My back doesn't like kayaks any more but when it did tolerate them it allowed me to do some
pretty stoopid offshore paddling in crosswinds, cross-swells, and wicked tides in a boat sans
rudder. If I did buy another boat it would certainly have a rudder. Why doesn't everyone buy
rudder boats? I can appreciate trying to keep things simple but is that the only reason?
As to single vs double you would never get me into a double unless it was a lake.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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I'm an experienced boater who knows what he wants, but to address the '
why no rudder?' issue...
Skeg boats typically have shallow V hulls and semi-keeled sterns that track well on their own without a rudder. For boats under 17', rudders are a clumsy bandaid for hull shapes that a) don't track well or b) weathercock. And a skeg is always in the water - in chop, much of a rudder might not be at times.
Managing rudder pedals rather than fixed footpegs kind of sucks, too.
Rudders are very helpful for longer boats, particularly doubles.
For the Puget Sound, my ideal weekend/several day boat would be about 15' (more easily transported/stored/maneuvered) with a soft chined shallow V hull and a skeg. Symmetrical or fish form is probably best for the typical 4' chop we can get here. Our typical tidal currents here run up to 4 knots.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 10:37am PT
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Again, not looking for advice. I've paddled every kind of boat there is.
Some hardware for sale would be nice, though.
We're gonna go double or 2 singles depending on what we can find in the used market.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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I got an old rowboat you can have, but the problem is you need to have both oars in the water.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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The Caribou is pretty stable, hard chine. Fun in waves, pretty fast too and you can pack it full of gear for overnighters. Plus it's sleek and looks really good ;)
I would recommend it, but I don't have much experience with boats other than a couple junky plastic Boreal's and Necky's I rented before finding this one for sale in a local forum.
You can always try MEC Gear Swap for used boats. Always see lots for sale in the Vancouver area.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 10:46am PT
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Excellent suggestion, Anita. Pretty boat - I'd be suckin' on gin and juice in that thing.
I'm covered on the rowboat front. My pal and I are doing Day 1 of the Race to Alaska (Port Townsend to Victoria) in his new 14' Whitehall, and given the prevailing winds that time of year, we'll probably row most if not all of the way.
And it turns out you don't need both oars in the water. He was taking 4 footers on his beam the other day - rowing with both hands on one oar only.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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My parents have 2 double sea kayaks (kevlar) which they have been using since the late 70s.
They have simple external skegs.
Many trips to BC, Vancouver Island, Glacier Bay.
Currently they are mostly used by kids and grandkids at the old family beach cabin near Allyn, WA.
I don't think they are looking to sell, but I could ask.
[Edit: I asked; they don't want to sell. They are nice for kids to use.]
They switched from climbing/hiking to kayaking because my mom had ankle tendonitis.
Tvash: Yes, I recall it's an Easy Rider. They have another of the same model that is green.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 11:53am PT
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Hi Clint,
If you could ask (and maybe get a pic - make/model) I'd appreciate it.
That looks like an Easy Rider rudder. A Beluga, maybe?
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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I have a fiberglass Necky Tofino (double), that we don't use much at all anymore. Same color as the one in the picture. It's big, and stable. You can find specs and reviews online. Let me know if you'd like more info. Oh yeah, we're in Santa Cruz.
Finally, the suggestion for the BASK classifieds, and of course Craigslist, might help you out.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
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I should probably mention that the double can't be longer than about 18' to fit in my garage. So...one of the shorter doubles would be best.
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Couldn't you extend your garage 2ft? Also, I think this was previously posted. Someone paddled a modified Tofino to from Monterey to Hawaii, so you always have that.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2015 - 01:06pm PT
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90 miles of open ocean is my personal limit. I'll take a jet.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Get a Klepper and take it with you to remote places.
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