More Proof That Some Gym Climbers Are Beyond Salvaging

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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 1, 2015 - 03:10pm PT

this place will accept those climbers who want that car next to em!
chill

climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
Mar 1, 2015 - 03:11pm PT
the deeply underground Utah gay scene

Not that underground. Remember Sen. Larry Craig? He had to hold a press conference to assert that he was, in fact, a manly hetero.
c wilmot

climber
Mar 1, 2015 - 04:33pm PT
Larry Craig just has a "wide stance" while sitting on the john...and a spastic leg issue...
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Mar 1, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
the deeply underground Utah gay scene

Not that underground. Remember Sen. Larry Craig? He had to hold a press conference to assert that he was, in fact, a manly hetero.

Hey, don't burden us Utards with Larry Craig. He was from Idaho.
crankster

Trad climber
Mar 1, 2015 - 05:28pm PT
You don't really start producing immense quantities of testosterone until you climb outdoors.
Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber
City of Salt
Mar 2, 2015 - 09:43am PT
I agree that climbers need to be more sensitive to environmental issues, and even how it appears whether or not there is actually impact. It was a poor decision.

However, the labeling and homophobia are uncalled for. Jeff Pedersen has done a lot for climbing in Utah. In addition to establishing hard routes (both sport and trad) he really extended himself to find financing and build quality gyms. He's created a nice, family-friendly environment and simply the best training facility around. He conducts himself with the utmost integrity and is always friendly and encouraging. I'm lucky to be able to climb there with people like Jonny Woodward, Steve Petro, John Bald, Merrill Bitter, Gordon Douglass, Doug Heinrich -- hardly climbers that need to "go outside to find their testosterone."

Unlike California, we have winter. We enjoy climbing and the gym give us a good opportunity for climbing, camaraderie, training, and just good fun. Why all the hate?

I wish the moderators of this site had less tolerance for bigotry. The comments about "gay" are completely inappropriate. Scrubbing Bubbles what are you -- 12? Comments about race, ethnicity, sex, or sexual orientation are not funny, and could be hurtful. If we could rid Supertopo of those who insist on making these comments it would be a much more enjoyable place.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 2, 2015 - 10:55am PT
I find the word "gym" in the thread superfluous, but "some" essential. Some climbers act as if they're irredeemable. As someone very old in the tooth as a trad climber, who happens to enjoy gym climbing, too, I've seen enough boorish behavior outdoors long before gyms hit the scene.

I just hope that calling attention to inappropriate behavior (and avoiding our tendency to paint with a mile-wide brush), we can create sufficient moral suasion to cause those who use the outdoors to act with care for the rock resource and the others who desire to use it.

John
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 2, 2015 - 10:59am PT
I've seen enough boorish behavior outdoors long before gyms hit the scene.

second that!


Unlike California, we have winter

we get a little winter!


However, the labeling and homophobia are uncalled for. Jeff Pedersen has done a lot for climbing in Utah

did you forget what forum your at? Supertopo old grumpy people post here so much Chris Mac has big problem with it..
Paul Martzen

Trad climber
Fresno
Mar 2, 2015 - 11:21am PT
I am still trying to figure out what the OP outrage was about. Is it the car parked next to the boulder or the person climbing on the boulder or that the boulder is blocking the view, or that boulderers are using crash pads, or????

Outrage tells us that you think something is important, but it does not specify what you think is important. I would appreciate an attempt at a clear explanation in the OP. BVB, would you please edit the OP and better explain what you find offensive about these photos.

pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 2, 2015 - 11:22am PT
Who you callin old and grumpy, you young whippersnapper?
lol!

I am still trying to figure out what the OP outrage was about. Is it the car parked next to the boulder or the person climbing on the boulder or that the boulder is blocking the view, or that boulderers are using crash pads, or????

it has to do with leave no trace some ancient desert stuff.
yes crash pads are just as destructive...
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Mar 2, 2015 - 11:24am PT
Paul, I think he's mad that the car drove from the dirt road across different dirt to the dirt by the rock.
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Mar 2, 2015 - 11:29am PT
Vagicil on aisle four. Everybody could do a little better with minimizing traces in the wilderness
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2015 - 03:39pm PT
Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. See that "loop road" that goes around the Red Monster? And all the blown-out denuded land around it? Right. It was not there the last time I climbed at Ibex. It's recent. So this is the problem. Climbers did it. With cars. So, you know, there's that.

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 2, 2015 - 03:51pm PT
way lame...
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 2, 2015 - 04:10pm PT
bvb... I get what your saying...right now there is a big field of fresh Boulders up in the desert.... a few of us know about it. We get together and talk about "when will we let the world know." Many of US say "no way", at first I was one of the "spread the word opinion" but now i'm all for keeping mum.

The place is so pristine with no LEO presence at all. Im afraid that lazy climbers would not walk the 1/8 mile to get to them and instant roads would get laid down all over the place, crushing the landscape.

Its the first time I have wished for some ranger control.

First time for everything.

The title of this should be "More Proof That Some Climbers Are Beyond Salvaging" .... no need to spear Gym climbers, lots of CLIMBERS are clueless.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Mar 2, 2015 - 07:05pm PT
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