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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Feb 26, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
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For me the white is a little dingy, with very very light gray undertones but it is still white and the gold is very gold.
I did indeed, along with gill think of the science vs religion thread and what Largo and MikeL have been saying all alog.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 26, 2015 - 09:50pm PT
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QUestion reality
PHCK dat
Ho wait that is mind what is
That siht gives me a head ache
I have Imogeez Imogey iimogy🙈🙉🙉
I'd rather go Fishing did YA all see what idid there waz up whale what did you see 🔓✒️😸👓
What was the point of the dancing Goyl girl spirilla swrill swrell now I'm playing with my self 😽and auto correct atoo atow aeto ahtoe,👼👹
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A taciturn duck comment with out a comment that's Wier Bob was a find of my sister along time ago aegoe Argo egoe three cheers 🃏
YA all broke a broke gnome
Nome knowme nhome why did auto correct want to say hugo huego huwgo hewgo
I had better not 'play' with astral....
Climbski2 Thank you in five or six posts from now all three things i see/saw when i lok and see the darkest color? yikes it makes me crazy, I 1st saw the never white and brown light , not gold yellow?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 26, 2015 - 09:53pm PT
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My son and I both see white and gold, my daughter sees Blue and black..
Shit's fukkin fukked up!
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Feb 26, 2015 - 09:59pm PT
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What you see to a large extent depends on the direction and intensity of the light source. I see Blue and gold as viewed on a cell phone, which would be interpreted by your mind as white and gold, because your brain reads the other cues.
Snow is "white", right? If you look at snow in bright sunlight it looks blinding white. But when you paint snow in a shadow you use a fairly strong blue because Blue is the color you see when you look at snow in shadow. But no one thinks the snow is actually blue.
The dress on the photo is strongly backlit so the front of the dress is in shadow. Hence we see it as white. Our minds read the cues.
By definition black is the deepest value. Black fabric might appear gold if it was in very intense front light because black fabric is almost always a very very dark color, not true black. If you look at "black" clothing it can be redblack, green black , blue black , yellow black etc. that is why it is often hard to wear two different pieces of black clothing together. But the value contrast between the two dress colors is not different enough for me to read the darker value as black.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Feb 26, 2015 - 10:07pm PT
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If you see the darker bands of color in the dress as black, then what color are the dsrk splotches to the left of the dress? Blacker black? The area to the left has the same lighting and is almost in the same plane.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Feb 26, 2015 - 10:26pm PT
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AWESOME its back to White and gold again. The difference is incredibly remarkable and I cannot figure out how my mind can interpret it so completely differently at different times. The minds auto white balancing must account for it and perhaps if the mind is interpreting it as backlit or not.
Here is a good photoshopped example of how different it can be. (I hope all of you see the difference) The original is in the middle
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Feb 26, 2015 - 10:42pm PT
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white and gold now
oh snap, I definitely shouldn't have had that last blotter.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Feb 26, 2015 - 10:44pm PT
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^ freaky
isn't it :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 26, 2015 - 10:49pm PT
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hey there say, all.... wow, i see a cadet'ish blue type color, perhaps mixed with a dull sky blue, but with some lighter spots of highlights...
and i reckon the black would be that FADED blackish trim, then, right?
it is sometimes, dull goldish black, and other parts of it are dull dark grey black, like it WAS black, but faded in the wash, :)
say, what i wonder is this:
think of all the money put into the senior proms, etc, and brides' maids' dresses, and such, that are coming out IN PHOTOS , perhaps entirely
NOT what they were 'envisioned' to be, for the keepsake photos, oh my, :)
KIND OF LIKE:
"look mom, it's me!!! the one in the blue dress AND black trim..."
"no...no... THAT'S your cousin, in the blue... YOU are in the WHITE, with the gold trim... say, shouldn't you have worn PEARLS with the white?... you both should have faced the camera, you know... this is SOOOO HARD!"
"awww, MOM--don't you see the turquoise broach? THAT'S ME, i tell you.. blue dress... turquoise broach"
"hmm, are you sure that's NOT a cameo? mmy mmy , but your cousin looks so nice!".
whewwwww, they spend a LOT of money, you know, to look good for the pics, :) proper dress color, hue, and all...
say, i always liked it at night, when we went out by the street lights, and it TURNED our shirts a different color... was so fun..
hmm, turned them WHITE, i think it was...
does anyone remember that???
or, did i get this BACKWARDS???
WHATEVER, it was so fun...
i know, we all know what the black-lights, did, too, to the
clothes-color, etc...
wow, powder:
so nice to see you here, wow, you sure had a LOT of thoughtful
questions... :)
i can see moose had fun, too...
:)
WOW, say, climbski2:
okay, i am seeing a mixture of the one on the far left, and the middle one...
let me recheck which has the same faded blacks... :)
definitely i am NOT seeing the one on the far right...
okay--the part that mixed more, into a bit lighter fade of EVEN the faded black that i saw was this:
the top shooulder/neck area...
i can now understand how that black could be seen as gold, since that area was a dullish gold to me, there... though some stripes, in the lacey edged parts, were, too...
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Feb 26, 2015 - 11:26pm PT
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For my fellow gold and white seeing folks struggling.....I FINALLY figured out how to see it black and blue. Cover up the right side of the photo (the very white part) and just focus on the bottom left of the photo, where this is a dark textured garment in the background. When I do this it turns blue and black, but as soon as I move my hand and look at the full photo it turns back to white and gold!! So weird!!!! Does this work for anyone else?!?!?!
BTW test have confirmed it is black and blue!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Feb 26, 2015 - 11:43pm PT
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This whole debate is ridiculous!
Color is not subjective or relative, it's measured by wavelength and is constant.
A picture cannot be used to measure the wavelength of light because whatever records the picture and/or projects it changes it.
But, it's pretty cool how our minds can play tricks and effect how we perceive it!
PS-totally white and gold in the picture!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 27, 2015 - 07:47am PT
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Is this a thread about crappy monitors, drug induced vision problems,
or white balance settings in a crappy camera?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 27, 2015 - 07:51am PT
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White and blue
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
therealmccoy from Nevada City
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Feb 27, 2015 - 07:56am PT
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This thread is meta Reilly, don't try to put it into a box.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Feb 27, 2015 - 07:56am PT
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Not Meta at all.
Reilley multiple people see it completely differently on the same monitor at the same time. Many people like myself also see it completely differently at different times. It's a fantastic example of how what we see depends on how our brain processes images.
At the moment its again White and Gold.
5 minutes later and it is now black and blue... so trippy every time it switches. So completely different as to make you question your sanity.
I find that looking at it on different sites in different sizes seems to trigger the change in perception but not consistently.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 27, 2015 - 08:20am PT
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Wait, now it's about Zubin Meta? I'm so confused.
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 27, 2015 - 08:23am PT
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This thread is about what color dress I should buy.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 27, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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I see a TRULY ugly white and gold dress, with a blue cast to the picture. Damned if I don;t wish I could find a way to make one of my own product images go viral like this shot is, though.
Meanwhile, this reminds me of the time I was out climbing with a group and I referred to my fleece as being blue in color. This other person, who was an artist, laughed and said "That's not blue, it's gray!"
I in turn guffawed and said "It's a heather blue. Look closely and see that there are two fiber colors, a pale blue and a very dark color which could be gray or black. The combination creates the appearance of a blue hue. Though it does have a cold tone, this fleece ain't gray."
Others chimed in, with "Gray." Men and women alike.
But I can tell you that I have a very keen sense of color(I was actually tested as a kid because I was ignoring the teacher during class and they wondered if I was simple or something. Turned out, quite the opposite).
I don't pretend to know why some people have eyes/brains which see colors differently than other people do. It would be an interesting study for someone working a PhD, if it's not been done.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Feb 27, 2015 - 10:56am PT
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How we see it doesn't change what it is, imho. It's white and gold. Praise Jesus!
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